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[0:05] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[0:08] United States of America and to the
[0:11] republic for which it stands, one nation
[0:14] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:17] justice for all.
[0:23] >> Mary, if we could have the reading of
[0:25] the call, please.
[0:26] >> Yes.
[0:28] There it is.
[0:30] Dear supervisor, please be advised that
[0:31] the Trempealeau County Board of
[0:32] Supervisors will meet at 5:30 p.m. on
[0:35] August 17th, 2026 in the County Board
[0:37] Room. All County Board claims are due in
[0:40] the administration [clears throat]
[0:41] office by noon on August 4th, 2026 so
[0:44] they can be approved for the audit
[0:45] committee approval so they can be
[0:46] prepared for audit committee approval.
[0:50] >> All right, Mary, could I ask you to do
[0:52] roll call?
[0:55] >> Bridgette Turner.
[0:58] Andy Parish.
[1:00] Riker Todd.
[1:01] >> Here.
[1:02] >> Lori Sieverson.
[1:03] >> Here.
[1:03] >> Andy Todd.
[1:04] >> Here.
[1:05] >> Richard Anderson.
[1:06] >> Here.
[1:06] >> Scott Leonard.
[1:07] >> Here.
[1:08] >> Paul Sieverson.
[1:09] >> Here.
[1:09] >> Kevin Wayland.
[1:10] >> Here.
[1:11] >> John Olson.
[1:12] >> Here.
[1:12] >> Don Krug.
[1:13] >> Here.
[1:13] >> Robert Becker.
[1:14] >> Here.
[1:15] >> Renee Lyon.
[1:16] >> Here.
[1:16] >> John Skog.
[1:17] >> Here.
[1:18] >> David Larson.
[1:20] >> Here.
[1:21] >> Kristen Husby.
[1:22] >> Here.
[1:23] >> Ron Johnson.
[1:24] >> Here.
[1:25] >> 15 present.
[1:27] >> All right, we have a quorum.
[1:29] All right, we're going to go move number
[1:31] two, um, complaints with open meeting
[1:33] law requirements have been met. Mary?
[1:34] >> Yes.
[1:35] >> Awesome, they have been met.
[1:37] I, um, entertain a motion
[1:40] for adoption of the agenda.
[1:42] >> So moved.
[1:43] >> We have
[1:43] >> Second.
[1:44] >> All right, we have Ron Johnson for the
[1:46] first. Who's on the second?
[1:48] >> I'll be on the second, Mr. Chair.
[1:50] >> Wayland on the second. Do I have any
[1:53] discussion, Mr. Wayland?
[1:54] >> Mr. Chair, I move that, uh,
[1:57] we amend the agenda as printed
[2:01] by deleting under resolutions
[2:05] resolution C1 that's the 2026
[2:10] 803 authorized additional one full-time
[2:14] employee economic support specialist
[2:16] position that we delete that from the
[2:18] agenda please.
[2:21] >> May I inquire as to why?
[2:23] >> I'll second that first.
[2:25] >> Okay, I [laughter] second that first.
[2:27] >> The reason it's being removed because
[2:29] the data and the information
[2:31] to be supplied on that resolution needs
[2:35] to be fulfilled and correct before we
[2:36] present it. So I discussed it with the
[2:39] individuals and we've all agreed that
[2:42] let's do it right and we'll do it well
[2:43] next meeting.
[2:45] Cuz it's got to go before finance with
[2:47] some of minor amendments.
[2:49] >> Thank you.
[2:51] >> Um
[2:52] It's accurate but we just need to make
[2:54] sure we follow proper procedure on it
[2:56] before it's brought before the assembly.
[2:59] >> Procedure?
[3:00] >> Yes, it should be approved as
[3:04] it's going to be presented to the final
[3:05] county board. It should be approved in
[3:08] that format with the committee.
[3:10] The finance and
[3:12] committee we got to make sure we get it
[3:13] right.
[3:15] >> So it has not yet come to exact finance?
[3:17] >> Right.
[3:17] >> Not in its final form.
[3:20] So we're just making sure we do it
[3:22] properly.
[3:23] >> However, it has been through Mr.
[3:25] >> Chairman, may I speak?
[3:25] >> Absolutely.
[3:26] >> I it's my understanding it has been
[3:27] through the Department of Health and
[3:29] Human Services Committee.
[3:30] >> Yes, it has.
[3:31] >> And there is
[3:33] um an issue and maybe it would be good
[3:35] to explain that
[3:37] as far as funding is that correct?
[3:40] >> I
[3:41] we Okay.
[3:42] >> We just know it's not ready right now. I
[3:44] don't know specifically on the funding
[3:45] issue.
[3:46] >> Um go ahead Susan if Susan
[3:48] >> I I think this matter and I certainly
[3:50] appreciate the discussion. I think the
[3:51] matter's pretty simple. It just was a
[3:54] mistake and it hasn't gotten to exact
[3:56] finance committee yet. It needs to go to
[3:58] exact finance and then it can be back
[4:00] here next next month.
[4:02] >> Thank you.
[4:03] >> Yep.
[4:04] >> Is there I guess any concern from health
[4:06] and human services about the delay in in
[4:08] this position? Is there any lot
[4:10] potential loss of grant money or
[4:11] anything?
[4:13] >> Go ahead, Jay.
[4:14] >> We've been working together. It's This
[4:16] isn't unique.
[4:18] >> Oh.
[4:19] Okay.
[4:19] >> If you want to follow up, sure.
[4:22] >> [clears throat]
[4:23] >> No, actually it was just mistakenly
[4:24] added to tonight's agenda. It was
[4:26] intended to go to exact finance.
[4:27] >> to the previous. Okay.
[4:28] >> Yes. Yes.
[4:29] >> Thank you.
[4:29] >> So,
[4:30] sorry.
[4:33] >> All right. Any other discussion?
[4:36] All right. All those in favor, see
[4:38] please.
[4:39] What's that?
[4:41] >> Of the amendment?
[4:42] >> Oh.
[4:42] >> Hey, we're voting on the amendment first
[4:43] and then we'll go to the agenda.
[4:44] >> So, we're going to go to vote on the
[4:45] amendment first. So, all those in favor
[4:47] signify by saying I.
[4:49] >> I.
[4:50] >> All those opposed signify by saying no.
[4:54] All right, that's carried.
[4:55] Now, we're going to go ahead and um
[4:57] um
[4:59] adopt the agenda. So, I need a motion to
[5:02] No,
[5:03] >> No, it's already been moved and
[5:04] seconded.
[5:04] >> Yeah, it's moved and seconded. Any other
[5:05] discussion?
[5:06] >> Yes.
[5:08] >> Hearing none,
[5:10] we're going to go ahead and uh
[5:12] uh all those in favor by signify by
[5:14] saying I for adoption of the agenda.
[5:16] >> I.
[5:17] >> All opposed.
[5:19] Thanks. All opposed say no.
[5:22] Carried.
[5:25] All right, we're going to move to number
[5:26] four, approval of July 2026 session
[5:29] minutes. Do I have a motion on the
[5:31] floor?
[5:32] >> So moved.
[5:33] >> We have uh Supervisor Husby has a
[5:36] motion. I got a second on the floor. We
[5:37] have second by Supervisor Anderson.
[5:41] Any discussion
[5:43] on the minutes?
[5:46] All right. Hearing none,
[5:48] all those in favor approving the July
[5:51] 2026 session minutes
[5:54] signified by saying I.
[5:55] >> I.
[5:56] >> [clears throat]
[5:57] >> I.
[5:57] >> Opposed signify saying no.
[6:01] Carried.
[6:04] All right.
[6:05] We're going to move to number five,
[6:07] appearances. I would like to ask
[6:09] district attorney for a quarterly
[6:11] update, John Sacia. John, if you're
[6:13] there and you can hear me?
[6:18] >> Oh, the screen's going down.
[6:19] >> I I am and I can. Thank you very much.
[6:21] Can you guys hear me okay?
[6:23] >> Absolutely. Beautiful background, by the
[6:24] way.
[6:25] >> Can you guys hear
[6:27] Okay.
[6:28] Hey, perfect. Yeah, you know, I I'm I'm
[6:31] uh you know
[6:32] I I I appreciate you guys so much that
[6:34] I'm I'm taking a break from my vacation
[6:36] uh to to give you my quarterly update.
[6:41] But, I'm not taking that much of a
[6:42] break. I'm still sitting out here on on
[6:44] the water enjoying enjoying the
[6:45] sunshine. Uh but, thank you for for the
[6:47] opportunity to to to give you my
[6:50] update.
[6:51] Um as is may
[6:55] you
[6:56] you may you aware, it's been a very busy
[6:59] summer uh for the office. Also, we've
[7:03] had four trials.
[7:05] Uh three of those were were were all
[7:07] they
[7:08] trial
[7:09] trials.
[7:12] Uh they've all
[7:15] >> Hey John, you're breaking up a lot.
[7:18] Can you hear me?
[7:19] >> Um
[7:20] uh
[7:22] considerable
[7:23] uh for been able to
[7:26] Okay. Uh
[7:28] I
[7:30] I can hear you now. Maybe I'll cut my
[7:31] video here.
[7:32] Um
[7:34] Okay. Uh is it clearer now?
[7:35] >> Yes.
[7:36] >> With without the video?
[7:37] >> Yes, much better.
[7:38] >> Any better now?
[7:39] >> Yep.
[7:40] >> Better? Uh
[7:44] Okay, perfect. Great. I'll I'll I'll
[7:46] I'll continue like this. So, yeah, it's
[7:48] it's been a busy it's been a busy summer
[7:50] for the DA's office.
[7:52] We've had a number of multi-day trials.
[7:54] Some very serious serious subject matter
[7:58] trials.
[7:59] And and I'm pleased to say that we've
[8:01] we've kind of secured convictions in in
[8:04] each of those.
[8:05] I Last time I was before the board for
[8:07] the update, I suggested that we might
[8:10] need to be asking for some additional
[8:12] monies to
[8:13] pay experts in these trials.
[8:15] At this point, we're we're we're okay.
[8:18] We're we're we're
[8:19] getting getting kind of the bottom of
[8:21] the well, but but we're we're still
[8:22] we're still all right. We do have a few
[8:24] more trials for the end of the year.
[8:26] I I don't think they're going to be as
[8:28] kind of
[8:29] expert heavy or as resource heavy as as
[8:32] the the preceding four trials were since
[8:35] since May.
[8:37] Um
[8:38] But
[8:39] so so hopefully I won't have to come
[8:40] come hat in hand
[8:42] to the next meeting requesting
[8:44] requesting money. But but yeah, we've
[8:46] had a very busy Christopher Penza. I
[8:49] think started
[8:51] shortly before the the
[8:54] my my last quarterly update.
[8:59] An excellent an excellent attorney.
[9:02] We're very fortunate to have him.
[9:05] He comes to us kind of from a white
[9:06] collar background, which is an unusual
[9:08] path for an ADA to follow. But we're
[9:12] fortunate that that he's he's with us.
[9:14] And he's really contributed a lot to to
[9:16] the office.
[9:18] Not to not to undersell Mike, who's
[9:19] who's been doing a great job for a long
[9:21] time. But but we really have a strong
[9:23] team at the DA's office at this point.
[9:26] Cheryl Skaug is is our new newest
[9:28] paralegal. She really has a tremendous
[9:31] background.
[9:32] Um
[9:33] As a paralegal, decades of experience.
[9:35] So, I'm really I'm really proud of the
[9:37] the team that we have and and
[9:40] the goal is just to kind of keep keep
[9:42] things going on the trajectory that
[9:44] they've been on
[9:45] for for the last you know since the
[9:46] beginning of the year certainly
[9:48] and and
[9:49] keep
[9:51] promoting public safety keep being
[9:53] accountable to to our voters or to to
[9:56] the population
[9:57] and and
[9:59] keep keep keep doing the job. So yeah if
[10:02] in terms of numbers were pretty much
[10:04] status quo we're kind of on track we're
[10:07] pretty consistent. We've been pretty
[10:08] consistent for the last 5 years or so. I
[10:11] think that we're we're pretty much on
[10:12] track for a similar 2026 although
[10:15] 2026 has been a busy trial year for us.
[10:19] You know historically you know when I
[10:21] first started we we had maybe one trial
[10:23] a year. Now as I said we've had four
[10:26] trials in the last 3 months and and uh
[10:30] I I I don't know I don't know that
[10:31] that's necessarily good or bad.
[10:34] I think that we're the goal is certainly
[10:36] send send a message to to
[10:39] to the public that that we're we're not
[10:41] you know if if if there's if there's
[10:43] something that needs to be disputed if
[10:45] if there's an issue that needs to be
[10:46] tried we're not afraid to take it to
[10:47] trial
[10:49] and and you know as I said we we secured
[10:51] good outcomes in the trials that we've
[10:53] had so
[10:54] yeah I'm grateful for for the good teams
[10:56] that we have
[10:57] both on the law enforcement side and
[10:59] also in-house paralegals victim witness
[11:02] coordinator my my other prosecutors in
[11:04] the office to be able to kind of get
[11:06] good outcomes here. So nothing nothing
[11:08] big to to report other than we've we've
[11:10] been busy.
[11:12] That's why I'm on vacation this week is
[11:14] cuz I just kind of wrapped up wrapped up
[11:17] the the end of my my trial calendar not
[11:19] long ago.
[11:21] But
[11:22] hopefully we can just kind of stay on
[11:23] the path that we're on
[11:25] but but no no big updates to report no
[11:27] no big asks of the board but happy to
[11:29] answer any questions if anyone has them.
[11:32] >> Anybody have any questions for Mr.
[11:34] Shesha?
[11:38] I think we all want you to have a
[11:39] wonderful vacation.
[11:45] Thank you, John.
[11:45] >> Well,
[11:46] Well, thank thank thank so much. We
[11:48] really appreciate it, guys. Uh thanks
[11:49] for your time. Uh and and as always, I'm
[11:52] I'm very serious when I say that that I
[11:54] welcome visitors in the office.
[11:57] Uh if anybody wants to uh to kind of
[11:59] stop in and and say hello or or see what
[12:02] we're doing or what we're working on,
[12:03] talk about, you know, what what what we
[12:05] do. Um and that goes for members of the
[12:07] public, too. Uh I just encourage you to
[12:09] call ahead so so we have time or we can
[12:11] kind of carve out some time for you. But
[12:13] if anybody has questions or or wants to
[12:15] see um see how how we do the work that
[12:17] we do, um I really welcome uh welcome
[12:20] visitors,
[12:21] uh you know, whether it's a member of
[12:22] the county board or member of the
[12:23] public. So, so please get in contact or
[12:26] stop on in. Uh we'll we'll make time for
[12:28] you.
[12:29] >> Sounds good, John. Thank you.
[12:32] >> Thanks, guys. Take care. Good night.
[12:35] >> All right, we're going to go ahead and
[12:36] move over to B, Sheriff's Quarterly
[12:38] Update.
[12:39] Erica Coxlin,
[12:41] please step on up.
[12:43] >> [laughter]
[12:45] >> All right, [clears throat] good evening.
[12:46] Um
[12:47] I'm going to start out talking about our
[12:49] UC Chat operation we did beginning of
[12:51] August.
[12:52] Um Trempealeau County per capita has the
[12:54] second highest number of cyber tips in
[12:56] the state of Wisconsin, meaning people
[12:58] downloading child pornography.
[13:00] So, we worked with Wisconsin
[13:02] [clears throat] Department of Justice,
[13:04] DCI, and Oneida County Sheriff's Office,
[13:07] along with the cooperation from ICUPD,
[13:10] and we did a two-day undercover
[13:13] operation.
[13:14] Um during that time, there were hundreds
[13:16] of chats going on with local people
[13:18] knowingly chatting with underage
[13:20] children.
[13:21] Um
[13:22] through that process, and I'm not going
[13:23] to give a lot of details cuz this is
[13:25] something we're going to continue doing
[13:26] in the future. We're going to be
[13:27] proactive with this.
[13:28] Um we did manage to get an arrest out of
[13:31] this.
[13:31] Um
[13:33] and all the overtime is covered by
[13:34] grants. So, costs us nothing and it was
[13:38] eye-opening. So.
[13:41] Um crash data.
[13:43] Um for this quarter, we had 81 car
[13:46] versus deer crashes.
[13:48] 57 crashes with property damage.
[13:51] 11 with injury and then one fatal out on
[13:54] 93.
[13:56] Um so, 150 total traffic crash events
[13:59] for this quarter.
[14:00] Um for a drone update, the Tavern
[14:02] League, um we'll get to that resolution,
[14:04] but they donated money to purchase
[14:05] another drone.
[14:07] And forensic lab.
[14:10] So, I'm working with the sheriffs from
[14:13] Jackson Buffalo County because pooling
[14:15] funds makes more sense, right, than
[14:16] trying to fund things on our own.
[14:18] Um and we will be joining the Chippewa
[14:20] Valley forensic lab. So, when we do
[14:23] these um child predator stings and
[14:25] things like that, and we get evidence,
[14:27] instead of waiting up to a year and a
[14:28] half to get phones downloaded and the
[14:30] evidence back, we'll get them back same
[14:32] day, maybe 2 days.
[14:35] So,
[14:36] um
[14:37] Jackson and Buffalo then will send their
[14:40] phones with our
[14:42] forensic analyst up to the lab. Um so,
[14:44] we're really excited about that. That'll
[14:46] be something that'll start off in 2027.
[14:49] Um still waiting to hear about the grant
[14:51] we put in that would be part of this
[14:54] forensic lab joining and among other
[14:56] things, but even if the grant doesn't go
[14:58] through, those two counties have been
[14:59] committed to helping us fund this. So.
[15:02] >> Erica, on that, uh if I may, chair.
[15:06] >> Good.
[15:06] >> Uh so, what is this forensic lab? Just
[15:09] give me a little of the backstory.
[15:11] >> So, it's a computer lab up in Eau
[15:12] Claire, and we would have a space there,
[15:15] our own computer, our own station. So,
[15:17] what you do is you Most of our cases, we
[15:19] get a cell phone. That's the best
[15:20] evidence out there, right? So, almost
[15:22] any case we'll take a cell phone. And
[15:24] then we plug it in and download
[15:26] forensically examine it. And then that
[15:27] evidence can be used in court hearings
[15:30] and so on, but it has to be by a trained
[15:32] professional and often times we have to
[15:34] send it to an outside lab and that's
[15:36] what takes so long cuz there's such a
[15:38] backlog.
[15:41] So.
[15:41] >> Thank you.
[15:42] >> Yeah.
[15:43] Um and I'm sorry I talked so fast. So,
[15:44] yeah, please stop me. Um our jail
[15:48] we're sitting between 60 and 75 inmates
[15:51] um right now. We have four from Jackson,
[15:53] one from Chipola, and six from the
[15:55] Department of Corrections
[15:57] with new beds going in at the end of
[15:58] September.
[16:00] The bunks will be started to go in at
[16:02] that time. Um our numbers are down in
[16:04] the jail. I've been meeting with jail
[16:07] staff and sheriffs from the counties
[16:09] that we had contracts with. We have a
[16:11] road map to get them back, so be patient
[16:13] with that. Um running a jail is like
[16:15] running a business, right? So,
[16:17] we had some changes that need to be
[16:18] made.
[16:20] Um staffing
[16:22] our jail we're two short
[16:25] which is better than we've been in a
[16:26] really long time.
[16:28] We just did interviews
[16:29] 3 weeks ago, I think. We interviewed
[16:31] three and then we have three more coming
[16:33] in next Wednesday.
[16:34] So, the three we did before are good. We
[16:36] have three more coming in, so out of
[16:38] this pool of six I'm very confident we
[16:40] can fill these last two positions.
[16:42] Uh our community reentry person started
[16:45] August 10th. She's fantastic. Um she's
[16:48] already hit the ground running. Um
[16:50] so, she's going to be a great asset and
[16:52] she also is able to be certified as a
[16:54] jailer. So,
[16:55] she's going to do that.
[16:57] Um deputies we are down
[17:01] we had a retirement last
[17:03] 2 weeks ago.
[17:04] So, we're down two, but we interviewed
[17:06] 12. And out of that we've got six in
[17:08] backgrounds. So, great
[17:10] turnout um
[17:12] and experienced people too, not just
[17:15] fresh out of the academy. So, it was a
[17:16] really nice really nice change. It was
[17:18] nice to have people to choose from. So,
[17:21] um dispatch continues to be fully
[17:22] staffed.
[17:24] Um
[17:26] Yeah, I think that's all I have tonight.
[17:29] >> Mr. Chair.
[17:30] >> Yes.
[17:30] >> Can I ask a question? Um we had a
[17:32] working agreement with Buffalo County.
[17:34] Can you background me on what happened
[17:36] because we were fairly close with
[17:38] Buffalo County and I was just curious
[17:40] they ended up going to Pierce County
[17:42] from what I had heard. So, I just wanted
[17:44] to know the evolution of what happened
[17:46] with that agreement.
[17:47] >> Right. And it was it was a surprise to
[17:49] me when they did that as well. And then
[17:50] they didn't break the contract, they
[17:52] just aren't bringing inmates here.
[17:54] And that is because of certain ways we
[17:56] do things here that they don't do in the
[17:58] other counties. We make it really
[18:00] difficult for people to bring inmates
[18:02] here. It's
[18:03] some things that other counties don't
[18:04] do. And I don't want to get into
[18:05] specifics because there's there's things
[18:07] that I'm working on. Correct. There's
[18:09] there's things that can be fixed.
[18:12] And they need to be fixed.
[18:14] >> So, they didn't follow our protocol.
[18:19] >> Which who didn't follow? Buffalo?
[18:20] >> Buffalo didn't follow the protocol that
[18:22] we have for Buffalo County Jail.
[18:25] Is that what happened?
[18:27] >> They
[18:28] How can I describe it? The other
[18:30] counties where they're taking their
[18:31] inmates to cuz they tell me
[18:33] Okay, yes, running a jail is like
[18:35] running a business.
[18:36] >> Right.
[18:37] >> And it's customer service and they're
[18:39] getting better customer service from the
[18:40] other jails.
[18:41] >> That's what I
[18:42] >> So, we need to fix our customer service.
[18:44] >> Okay.
[18:45] >> And that's my goal.
[18:46] >> Great way to explain it. I appreciate
[18:47] that.
[18:48] >> I just don't want to get into
[18:50] too much here. Okay.
[18:52] >> say what happened to Buffalo County
[18:54] coming over and not
[18:56] >> That is your answer and I am
[18:58] working really well with um now Sheriff
[19:00] Lane and their jail administrator as
[19:02] well. So,
[19:05] >> Any other questions for Erica?
[19:08] >> Mr. Chair.
[19:08] >> Yeah, absolutely.
[19:10] >> I was um
[19:12] after COVID the I know the schooling for
[19:15] all the police officers, there's nobody
[19:17] was even going to them, but now after
[19:19] like it's like what, 12 years since
[19:21] COVID or whatever, 10 years.
[19:23] Is the population coming out of the
[19:25] schools getting big enough where they
[19:27] the classes filling up so that it takes
[19:29] some pressure off you trying to fill all
[19:31] your vacancies?
[19:32] Or uh I I heard that they were they were
[19:35] full or not. I know they were terrible
[19:36] about 5 8 years ago.
[19:37] >> Yeah, it it's I teach part-time at the
[19:40] academy in Sparta and we are doing well
[19:42] there.
[19:43] Um
[19:44] state patrol I know is struggling a
[19:45] little bit right now with their
[19:47] >> Trying to fill positions.
[19:48] >> Yeah. And I think
[19:51] I don't know. I I think we're building a
[19:52] really good team here and I think that
[19:54] helps to get people to apply here.
[19:56] Um
[19:56] >> Well, it's just nice though that the
[19:58] classes are full again because that'll
[19:59] help you fill the spots you need.
[20:01] >> Yeah. It I think we're getting there.
[20:03] It's looking better than it was before.
[20:05] Yes.
[20:09] >> Any other questions for Erica?
[20:12] Well, Erica, thank you for doing such a
[20:13] great job. Appreciate it.
[20:17] I think we're going to move over to see
[20:18] Highway 2025 Auto Report. Neil Olson,
[20:22] Highway Commissioner, please step on up.
[20:27] >> Um
[20:28] I guess I didn't make a big
[20:28] presentation.
[20:32] >> [clears throat]
[20:32] >> Didn't make a big presentation. Um you
[20:34] guys got our financial statement in your
[20:36] packets. So um
[20:38] by statute we are required to present to
[20:41] you guys. Um
[20:43] Do you Is there any questions I guess
[20:45] first of all from anybody on
[20:47] anything in it?
[20:49] Some of it's pretty boring.
[20:50] >> I have a question.
[20:51] >> Mhm.
[20:52] >> Uh the
[20:53] the the the letter from Baker Tilly has
[20:57] some language that is
[20:59] a little confusing to me.
[21:02] >> Yeah, we uh
[21:02] >> It says management has omitted
[21:04] management's discussion and analysis,
[21:06] blah, blah about and it it's like we
[21:09] didn't we didn't do follow the
[21:11] accounting rules for in the United
[21:13] States.
[21:14] Can you explain that?
[21:16] >> Well, so Dave and I had a little bit of
[21:17] this conversation is that um
[21:20] you know, we follow it. However, there
[21:23] is issues with our transition from where
[21:25] we were at to the Tyler system and those
[21:27] things that um maybe some things got
[21:30] left behind or
[21:32] some journals and things crossed over
[21:33] from year to year that weren't caught up
[21:35] on.
[21:36] Um so, yeah, it's kind of a lengthy
[21:39] I don't know. Dave and I discussed it
[21:41] and almost sounds a little demeaning to
[21:43] how it's worded.
[21:44] Um
[21:46] which I guess I'm not entirely sure how
[21:48] to take it, but
[21:50] um
[21:54] I don't know if that's you know
[21:58] um
[21:59] everything in here is correct, I guess I
[22:01] would say. So, um maybe they had to do
[22:04] more work and that was the frustration
[22:05] on Baker Tilly's side. I guess I don't
[22:07] know what the reason for some of how
[22:09] that's worded is.
[22:11] >> Well, it's not clear what they did in
[22:14] this because they they said they didn't
[22:16] do an audit, right?
[22:18] Um what did we pay for this report from
[22:21] them?
[22:21] >> Um I think our highways portion of it
[22:24] was around 13,000 of Baker Tilly's bill
[22:27] this year, 13 and change.
[22:29] Um which
[22:30] yes and no, they do and don't do the
[22:32] report or unofficial audit sometimes. Um
[22:36] Um [clears throat] they sent a employee
[22:38] that actually sat with um our Diane for
[22:40] a few days to go over some of the items
[22:43] that were missing and corrected.
[22:45] Um
[22:47] >> [clears throat]
[22:47] >> and so that's a another portion of a
[22:49] little bit of a larger side of the
[22:50] charges is to have somebody on site.
[22:53] Um
[22:55] so, but that I guess I'd have to get
[22:57] back to you with a better answer on
[22:59] officially what the reason is.
[23:00] >> Are we moving towards Tyler's? If we get
[23:04] Tyler and are using it, will this type
[23:06] of stuff go away?
[23:08] >> Well, the intention is yes.
[23:10] >> Okay.
[23:10] >> Um
[23:11] and I think we're getting somewhat
[23:12] closer. Um
[23:14] PAM has now entered um
[23:17] uh payrolls, I believe, all the way
[23:18] through May and possibly into June in.
[23:21] So, we're starting to see all of it come
[23:23] together now.
[23:24] >> Okay.
[23:24] >> Um I think the intention was and a
[23:26] little bit off subject of ours, but the
[23:28] intention was to get
[23:30] hopefully by the end of the year, so
[23:31] we're entering budget. And then like
[23:33] next year, you'd see both sides cuz our
[23:35] budget would all be in.
[23:37] Um
[23:38] and then the ins and outs would start
[23:39] showing up through Tyler. It'd be more
[23:41] real-time data.
[23:43] >> Cheer, may I?
[23:44] >> Absolutely.
[23:45] >> We are seeing reports out of both right
[23:47] now.
[23:48] >> Mhm.
[23:49] >> At the highway department level.
[23:51] >> Yeah. And so,
[23:52] >> it's it's a work in progress, I would
[23:54] >> Yeah. And it's a process of change um
[23:56] from the AS/400 system and we're we're
[23:58] using a Chem program that the state
[23:59] uses, most I think uh 62 out of the 72
[24:02] counties use for the highways
[24:04] financials.
[24:05] Um so, we still track it there just to
[24:08] make sure that this Tyler is keeping
[24:10] everything corrected. Um
[24:13] probably [clears throat] do that for a
[24:14] while even into a knowing that Tyler's
[24:16] working just cuz um
[24:18] it's good backup.
[24:19] But it is double entry.
[24:21] Um
[24:22] so, some of these things um will
[24:24] definitely be taken care of.
[24:26] Timeline, I would like to say that it
[24:28] would for sure be by next year, but
[24:30] based on making sure everybody knows and
[24:31] understands the full Tyler system and
[24:33] it's all working and usable correctly,
[24:36] you know, it'd be a timing thing.
[24:44] >> Are the concerns that are noted by the
[24:46] audit
[24:48] with relationship to information that
[24:50] was missing
[24:52] um or discussions, disclosures, so
[24:54] forth.
[24:57] Are those things actually result of the
[24:59] Tyler program or was there more going on
[25:02] behind the scenes there that
[25:05] maybe is still even being uncovered by
[25:06] our new finance
[25:08] um manager?
[25:10] Is anyone able to answer that?
[25:12] >> Well, right now there's a lot going
[25:14] behind the scenes like she today she
[25:16] just closed out um 2025
[25:19] um when it comes to so we can everything
[25:20] that's being entered into 2026 can now
[25:22] be entered into Tyler for 2026. So
[25:25] there's a lot of journal entries that
[25:27] have to be put in um at this point when
[25:29] it comes to going into 2026 but 2025 in
[25:32] Tyler has not been completely closed as
[25:35] of today at
[25:37] 3:00 I think um she closed it out. Um so
[25:40] now
[25:42] there's a lot of catch-up entries that
[25:43] need to be um entered into Tyler so we
[25:46] can start as of January 2026.
[25:50] >> For my own curiosity, would these
[25:52] corrections that have been needed
[25:55] that are needed these corrections that
[25:56] are needed would we be in a position of
[25:59] getting those issues addressed and
[26:01] closed if we didn't have
[26:04] um Pam in this position or would it have
[26:06] taken us longer to get there or kind of
[26:08] what do we anticipate that might have
[26:10] looked like?
[26:11] >> You know that's really hard to say I
[26:13] mean cuz it didn't happen. So I'm not
[26:15] sure um Tyler wasn't um exactly set up
[26:19] uh between Tyler's even Tyler saying
[26:21] that when it comes to the cash reconcile
[26:24] all that stuff they've not sure how why
[26:25] that was set up the way it was set up um
[26:28] cuz typically they don't set it up that
[26:30] way. So there's a lot of discussion when
[26:32] it comes to how Tyler was set up and
[26:35] rolled out I guess I want to say.
[26:37] So I mean they're working on it Pam's
[26:39] working hard on it I know that much for
[26:41] sure.
[26:41] >> Sure.
[26:42] >> Um you know she's working hours and
[26:44] hours on it I mean there's different
[26:45] approvals that have to happen when it
[26:47] comes to what level approvals that have
[26:48] to happen. So um to try to put all this
[26:51] stuff together, the first step was just
[26:53] to get 2025 done and that was what the
[26:57] process was and so that's why you're
[26:58] getting this report because there was a
[27:00] lot of entries that were not correct
[27:02] because of, you know, the
[27:04] the changeover and so on and so forth.
[27:06] So, when when AS, um, what was that? A
[27:09] >> It was 400.
[27:10] >> What is it?
[27:11] >> AS400.
[27:11] >> AS400, the system, there's a lot of
[27:14] stuff that was entered into there for
[27:15] 2026. I'm a
[27:18] don't quote me, 3600 entries or
[27:20] something that was actually entered into
[27:22] that and it
[27:24] and not and not into Tyler for 2026. So,
[27:26] those entries have got to be put into
[27:28] Tyler now.
[27:29] So, there's just a lot of things that we
[27:31] have to
[27:32] that Pam's working hard on to get put
[27:34] together so we can get everything
[27:37] um, leveled out and moving forward. But,
[27:39] it's just it's going to take some time,
[27:42] um, but Pam's working hard on it. She
[27:44] really is.
[27:45] >> And I will say in a process of change a
[27:47] few things just to note that had
[27:49] happened as for example, when you
[27:50] brought up, um,
[27:52] approvals, um, there's certain
[27:54] thresholds that are built into Tyler.
[27:56] Um, smaller dollar amounts, um, we do a
[27:58] lot of them at highway, but, um, Diane
[28:01] does a certain approval level. I do
[28:03] 5,000 and over. It passes on to Pam, to
[28:06] Stacy, to Mary. There's all these steps
[28:08] in it and as we were building and
[28:09] growing in it,
[28:11] it did happen where there was mistakes
[28:12] made where there might have been a
[28:13] double entry. There was double payments
[28:16] made and then some of those reflect on
[28:19] some of this that happened in, you know,
[28:20] towards the end of the year where
[28:22] uh, all of a sudden reconciliation at a
[28:25] month end didn't make sense because
[28:26] there was a double entry or there was a
[28:28] missed entry. So, maybe some of that's
[28:30] more of where they're claiming they had
[28:32] some of these issues and it wasn't
[28:34] proper.
[28:35] So, I think we've for the most part
[28:38] that's gotten better.
[28:39] Highway and other departments, I guess I
[28:41] can't speak for everybody, but
[28:43] for us I feel it's better.
[28:45] >> And I think it's just going to take some
[28:46] time now we got 2025 closed. It's just
[28:49] going to take some time to
[28:51] get that 2026 caught back up again and
[28:53] moving forward.
[28:54] >> Mhm.
[28:58] Um
[28:59] I guess other than that, I just had a
[29:01] couple little topics of um
[29:04] a year ago um
[29:07] we had swapped the administrative
[29:09] department from
[29:10] uh levied cost um dollar
[29:14] into the administrative fee um which
[29:17] became
[29:18] 4.63%.
[29:20] Um so if you guys would look at um
[29:23] page three defines our
[29:25] >> [clears throat]
[29:26] >> operating expenses for the year were
[29:28] 12,344,722.
[29:31] Um so
[29:32] and within that was 555,965.56
[29:38] of administrative costs.
[29:40] Um that includes all kinds of things
[29:43] such as uh my vehicle is part of that
[29:45] expense anyways.
[29:47] Um there's a lot of numbers that get
[29:49] calculated.
[29:50] >> [clears throat]
[29:51] >> And if you drop that out, there was
[29:53] 11,788
[29:55] and 757 left. Um so at 0.463%
[30:00] it come out about $1,000 or $10,000
[30:02] different to that. So we use that as a
[30:04] calculation and then we charge all the
[30:06] projects. Now we charge it as a township
[30:08] item.
[30:09] Um
[30:10] our 318, the construction projects, the
[30:12] bonded money that you guys um have for
[30:15] our construction, part of that cost is
[30:18] through that now. So it it it pulled it
[30:20] off the levy and went into the other
[30:22] dollars and other people are funding it.
[30:25] Um it helps.
[30:27] It's a way to support the county because
[30:29] it's an acceptable um
[30:31] from the DOT, it's an acceptable way of
[30:33] charging costs. So um
[30:35] we moved that last year. So it'll look
[30:37] just a tiny bit different in 26's
[30:40] next year when we do this. Um
[30:41] >> Mr. Chairman, may ask you
[30:43] >> Absolutely.
[30:44] >> So, in a nutshell, does that mean then
[30:45] that this this cost then
[30:48] is an operational cost, so it's being
[30:49] passed on to the customer.
[30:51] >> Yep.
[30:51] >> Thank you.
[30:52] >> Yep. So, townships, municipalities, uh
[30:55] DOT
[30:56] >> And in what line item line item is that?
[30:58] >> Um I guess in here
[31:01] it's listed under operating expenses um
[31:04] on this one yet is highway
[31:06] administrative fees.
[31:08] Um right above radio expenses on page
[31:10] three. We are listed there and then it
[31:12] is it does have all the detailed
[31:13] breakdown.
[31:15] >> [clears throat]
[31:16] >> It has all the detailed breakdown. I'd
[31:18] have to find what page it is on.
[31:21] It has those costs within it. Um
[31:25] Page five. Would it shows uh
[31:27] commissioner costs, other labor of
[31:29] office staff, fringe benefits,
[31:31] the committee's per diem, the highway
[31:33] committee's per diem is in there,
[31:34] highway's mileage,
[31:36] commissioner car expenses, our
[31:37] depreciation, um
[31:40] such as my pickup that I drive, um
[31:43] the um we're in the last year of
[31:45] depreciation. I think it's this month
[31:46] that's done.
[31:48] Um the buildings and grounds allocation
[31:50] such as our building,
[31:52] ev- every little detail that's in our
[31:54] office
[31:55] is one of these items.
[31:57] Um and then we'll compile that,
[32:00] come up with a new percentage for next
[32:02] year, and then it might change by a
[32:03] quarter percent or something like that.
[32:05] >> Another question, Mr. Chair.
[32:07] >> Absolutely.
[32:08] >> Um so, does this mean that
[32:11] when you prepare your budget, that your
[32:13] adminis- your typical administrative
[32:14] expense would be reduced?
[32:18] >> So, it's not really reduced, but it's
[32:20] moved off of a actual levied line item.
[32:22] So, for example, a year ago, if you guys
[32:24] looked at the budget, highway admin was
[32:26] a line item, and that dollar amount was
[32:28] in there for all these items.
[32:30] Now, it won't [clears throat] show up
[32:31] there because it's cost pooled and then
[32:35] spread out.
[32:36] >> But, you're getting reimbursed. you?
[32:37] >> be reimbursed, yeah.
[32:38] >> reimbursed now, and that's the
[32:39] difference. So, really reimbursements do
[32:41] offset your expenses, which should
[32:43] reduce
[32:45] >> Yes.
[32:45] >> Reduce your expenses.
[32:47] >> To a point. Other than
[32:49] >> [clears throat]
[32:49] >> they're happening, but
[32:51] for example, if you guys would bond
[32:54] for our construction again this year and
[32:55] we charge it onto that, they reduced it
[32:57] in one area, but it's still there
[32:58] because it's it's in the bond dollar.
[33:01] It's kind of like
[33:02] a big contractor in their bid price has
[33:06] administrative cost in it. It's there,
[33:09] >> [clears throat]
[33:09] >> but it's not in the same line item.
[33:11] We charge it at, you know, so yes, it
[33:13] does reduce it because the towns are now
[33:15] funding some of it, the cities,
[33:18] villages. So, it is a portion of it is
[33:20] reduced.
[33:21] >> Thank you.
[33:23] >> Just one more question.
[33:24] >> Absolutely, John.
[33:26] >> Uh you mentioned earlier that we had
[33:28] some double billed items or something or
[33:30] double paid items. This concerns me
[33:32] more. You double paid, did you get the
[33:35] other half back then?
[33:36] >> Yes, and that but that's part of where
[33:39] some of the entries maybe had happened
[33:41] just by invoice or something and then
[33:44] as months got closed, if a month was
[33:46] closed,
[33:47] >> [clears throat]
[33:47] >> carried to the next month,
[33:49] you might have took another month to
[33:50] notice it. Sometimes vendors did not
[33:53] cash them, yet we had written the check,
[33:56] but
[33:57] >> [clears throat]
[33:57] >> it took a little time to find all that.
[33:59] So, yes, the there in the end of it all,
[34:02] that was all cleaned up and taken care
[34:04] of.
[34:04] >> Okay.
[34:05] >> There you go.
[34:10] >> I [clears throat] guess um my only other
[34:11] topic I thought I'd bring up is um
[34:14] there's a lot of detailed items such as
[34:16] um
[34:19] page 11 has um cost analysis of all our
[34:22] vehicles,
[34:23] and it's it's a little hard to
[34:25] understand.
[34:26] Um it has a unit ID. For example, 001 is
[34:30] our construction foreman's truck,
[34:32] and that goes through labor and fringe,
[34:34] parts, fuels.
[34:36] Um if so, it'll go through the entire
[34:37] costing if we had to change oil, change
[34:39] tires, such as that on it.
[34:42] And then
[34:43] towards the last of the columns, it has
[34:45] the [clears throat] total cost for it
[34:46] and the total revenue generated.
[34:48] Um
[34:50] if you skip to page 24,
[34:53] I know it's it's a little bit different
[34:55] page, but on page 24, it identifies
[34:59] that truck one.
[35:10] Truck one is a 2020 Ford Super Duty
[35:13] and it's got Fritz's name behind it. Um
[35:16] so, if you really get bored and want to
[35:18] read all the details of what happens
[35:19] with the equipment, um it's all in
[35:22] there.
[35:23] Um one item I brought up is uh we had a
[35:27] we have a
[35:28] traffic maintenance agreement with the
[35:30] DOT
[35:31] for painting. So, we paint all the way
[35:33] to Hudson with our paint truck.
[35:35] Um so, that's truck 77 and the
[35:37] compressor on it's 977. So,
[35:39] the revenue generated off of that one, I
[35:41] like to see a little better because it's
[35:44] revenue generated that's not our own
[35:45] projects.
[35:46] It come from the DOT, Buffalo County,
[35:48] Pepin County, Jackson County. So,
[35:51] probably 90 to 95% of the revenue
[35:53] generated off of that one is from
[35:55] another source, which is very beneficial
[35:57] to us.
[35:58] So.
[35:59] Anyways, I don't have a lot of detail. I
[36:01] didn't want to bore you guys with
[36:03] you know, I could have read
[36:04] line for line, but if there's any other
[36:06] questions or anything or
[36:08] something you guys find,
[36:10] give us a holler and we'll dig into
[36:12] something and let you know.
[36:14] Um
[36:16] >> Mr. Chair.
[36:16] >> Yeah, absolutely.
[36:17] >> So, just want to follow up during our
[36:20] tour, which was very informative, you
[36:22] showed us the
[36:24] the asphalt plant.
[36:25] >> Mhm.
[36:26] >> [clears throat]
[36:26] >> Is there going to be a capital plan to
[36:29] talk about
[36:30] upgrading that or
[36:32] >> Well, that has been
[36:33] when we had um
[36:35] Mike and Steve from Government
[36:36] Solutions,
[36:37] um
[36:38] a couple other counties had made um
[36:41] a plan and plugged it in there in about
[36:42] a 10-year plan.
[36:44] Um
[36:45] I'm probably going to be presenting
[36:46] something to try and shorten that up for
[36:48] us.
[36:48] Um we have some
[36:50] issues with air emissions on the
[36:52] wet collector that we're using.
[36:54] Um
[36:55] so it'll probably come try and push that
[36:58] a little faster.
[36:59] Um it's a little awkward. For example,
[37:01] our quads are about $68 an hour in
[37:03] revenue right now, so their replacement
[37:05] value is fairly fast because we run them
[37:07] all the time.
[37:08] And it seems awkward that the plant
[37:10] itself does not have a higher value in
[37:13] some of the items for the costing
[37:16] to help replace itself.
[37:17] Um
[37:18] and it is getting
[37:20] I mean, we've done a lot of updates over
[37:21] the years. It's got a drum on it about
[37:23] 7-8 years old.
[37:25] Um we did some liners in the bins, but
[37:27] um
[37:28] in the scale shack of it or in the shack
[37:31] part of it, all the old buttons and
[37:32] stuff are getting way obsolete, crazy
[37:34] expensive, so
[37:36] it it's kind of pushing us towards the
[37:38] time frame where we're going to have to
[37:39] do something.
[37:40] Um simple little buttons like here where
[37:42] you'd turn your thing on are four or
[37:43] five hundred dollars.
[37:45] And you know, we replace them with some
[37:47] other regular kind of switches, but that
[37:49] gets to be difficult to do, too, so
[37:51] there will be coming um
[37:54] I guess for all of you, I'm going to try
[37:55] and build a 10-to-15-year plan.
[37:58] I've brought it up to my committee a few
[37:59] times that Brett Sammons' speech on this
[38:02] building right here was a 50-to-70-year
[38:03] plan.
[38:05] And our highway shop was built in 1978,
[38:08] so we're approaching that
[38:09] right now with no sort of plan. And
[38:12] maybe I won't build it in my time, but
[38:14] if we have a plan in place or something
[38:15] for 10-to-15-20 years out,
[38:18] at least somebody has something to go
[38:20] off of and we started some funding
[38:21] process.
[38:23] And not only that, all of our outlying
[38:24] shops, they're getting, you know, a lot
[38:27] of them were built or purchased 70s kind
[38:30] of built buildings.
[38:31] So, they're they're hitting a a lifetime
[38:33] of
[38:34] what do we do now situation, so.
[38:40] Um so, anyways, yeah, I guess
[38:42] other than that, if there's not any
[38:44] other questions or
[38:45] >> Any other questions for Neil?
[38:48] Hearing none, Neil, thank you.
[38:50] >> Mhm.
[38:50] >> Appreciate your time.
[38:51] >> Thank you. Um maybe I guess bringing
[38:52] that topic up uh maybe next year I'll
[38:55] part of this, I'll build a little bit of
[38:57] a plan in long term and
[38:59] highway will know about it, obviously,
[39:00] but maybe I'll put something together
[39:02] for the county as a whole.
[39:04] >> That'd be good.
[39:05] >> Okay.
[39:06] >> Thank you.
[39:06] >> Mr. Chair.
[39:08] >> Yes, sir.
[39:09] >> want to add to Neil's that
[39:10] the uh the Neil and the commissioners
[39:12] before him have all done excellent job
[39:14] of maintaining that plant. I mean, it's
[39:16] a
[39:16] it's a good thing to have.
[39:18] >> Mhm.
[39:18] >> And uh they do a lot of maintenance on
[39:21] it every winter and to keep it up so
[39:23] that we don't have any major breakdowns
[39:25] in the summer and we've we've
[39:26] [clears throat] been pretty lucky,
[39:27] fortunate for the last 30, 40 years.
[39:29] But uh she is she's starting to show her
[39:32] age a little.
[39:32] >> Yep.
[39:33] >> Like we all are.
[39:34] >> Um this year and I don't know, I mean,
[39:35] everybody knows what happened to gas
[39:37] prices this year, but we had did our we
[39:39] had done our oil bids in March and we
[39:41] landed about 3 weeks before all the
[39:42] craziness happened
[39:44] and it actually pushed our mix price
[39:46] down almost $10 a ton this year.
[39:48] Um
[39:49] so, some kind
[39:50] >> contractor dollars that I've heard
[39:51] recently,
[39:52] >> it kept our budget well, well on track
[39:55] for what happened this year. Um
[39:58] those little things, like you said
[39:59] though, is what it it it drives us.
[40:02] Um keeps us cheap.
[40:04] So.
[40:06] Anyways, so thanks.
[40:07] >> Awesome.
[40:10] Thank you.
[40:12] All right, we're going to move to uh
[40:13] ministry report 2027 budget survey
[40:16] results.
[40:18] Go ahead, Rebecca.
[40:19] >> Okay. You have in front of you a
[40:22] a printed copy of some graphs. Um this
[40:26] is
[40:26] the online survey or paper copy that you
[40:30] all complete. 15 of you at least
[40:32] completed. And this is the data from
[40:35] that. So, I'll just kind of go through
[40:37] this. Exact finance has heard this
[40:39] already and I'll go through it with you.
[40:40] You have some of the the the written
[40:44] responses are printed out. I I gave that
[40:47] to you separate. Uh I won't go through
[40:49] that on the screen cuz it's too hard to
[40:51] read those, but on uh these with the
[40:54] graphs, I'll I'll touch on these. Which
[40:57] statement best reflects your budget
[40:59] philosophy?
[41:00] Um and then overwhelmingly, we have here
[41:03] maintain current services with minimal
[41:05] tax impact. Uh followed by focus
[41:08] primarily on public safety and mandated
[41:10] services. Focus primarily on
[41:12] infrastructure and capital needs. Focus
[41:15] on workforce retention and employee
[41:17] compensation. Prioritize strategic
[41:20] investments even if costs increase and
[41:22] reducing spending wherever possible. You
[41:24] can see the
[41:25] um
[41:26] the grid there on how that laid out. Uh
[41:29] then we had a question in there, but
[41:32] what do you believe should be the
[41:33] county's highest budget priority for
[41:35] 2027?
[41:37] Um highway infrastructure
[41:39] uh was the highest ranking um as well as
[41:43] employee recruitment and retention and
[41:45] higher pay as well as economic
[41:48] development housing initiatives. Those
[41:50] were the top three.
[41:52] >> Beck Becky
[41:52] >> Yes.
[41:53] >> We don't have the second half of the
[41:54] page.
[41:55] >> Oh dear.
[41:55] >> We go from three to 10.
[41:57] >> Okay.
[41:57] >> [laughter]
[41:58] >> Well, you'll
[41:59] you'll have to follow along on the
[42:01] screen.
[42:02] >> You might want to email that out to us.
[42:04] >> Yep. Yep. I'll email it out.
[42:06] >> You keep You keep going anyway.
[42:07] >> [laughter]
[42:08] >> We'll listen to you fine.
[42:10] >> Um
[42:12] Okay.
[42:13] Are you sure that
[42:14] those but that doesn't have the
[42:16] question?
[42:17] >> Yeah, just print
[42:18] >> Okay. Okay. Didn't print both sides. All
[42:21] right. Um
[42:22] okay, so I'll I'll send the data to you
[42:24] after. But anyway, this is uh
[42:27] then public safety sheriff's office 8%
[42:30] um followed with 8% in economic
[42:33] development, parks, tourism, recreation
[42:35] next.
[42:37] County government must often balance
[42:38] competing priorities with limited
[42:40] availa- available revenue. Please
[42:42] indicate your level of support for the
[42:44] following budget considerations and new
[42:46] position requests.
[42:48] Basically, wage adjustments to remain
[42:51] market competitive uh scored highest
[42:53] here. Strongly support at 26.7%
[42:57] and in the uh support 46.7%.
[43:01] So, overall, you have a 70-some percent
[43:06] uh agreement with that. Increased
[43:09] technology
[43:10] uh investments, support strongly at 6.7%
[43:14] support at 33%,
[43:17] neutral 60.
[43:18] Additional funding for infrastructure
[43:21] facilities, support at 26.7%. I think
[43:25] that has to do probably because you've
[43:27] uh really already invested a lot into
[43:29] facilities. You've got that taken care
[43:31] of pretty well.
[43:32] Reduce services to minimize tax impact,
[43:36] there's some support for that uh about
[43:38] 27% close to.
[43:41] Um and then reduce benefit package in
[43:44] order to add positions, better uh pay if
[43:47] you had to, some support. Um then we got
[43:51] into the position requests. Um adding
[43:55] one deputy clerk of court was the
[43:57] strongest support showing 46.7%
[44:01] and neutral at 46.
[44:04] Um adding a deputy deputy treasurer
[44:06] support at 33. Here is strongly support
[44:10] land management 20 and a 6.7 for
[44:14] support, so 26.7%.
[44:18] Parks facility
[44:19] was neutral or negative. Adding the
[44:22] human resource position and separating
[44:24] from county administrator was either
[44:26] strongly support or support at 46.7.
[44:30] Pretty much the same as the deputy
[44:32] clerk.
[44:34] A little bit more
[44:36] neutrality
[44:38] up here in this top one with the clerk
[44:41] of court.
[44:42] And the clerk of court and thinking
[44:44] about that and that need, I guess as you
[44:47] think about again, you added a DA.
[44:51] Now [clears throat] you have more work
[44:52] coming through that court system. It's
[44:53] the same thing the judges said. You're
[44:56] going to see that kind of progression
[44:58] through those offices where there's
[45:01] extra need for help.
[45:04] If all the position requests cannot be
[45:06] funded, please rank in top of priority
[45:09] in in priorities, so deputy of clerk
[45:11] ranked highest, then treasurer deputy
[45:14] treasurer, conservation zoning in third,
[45:17] human resource position and parks
[45:19] facilities.
[45:21] Um
[45:23] Moving on, there's a question there. If
[45:25] the county experiences limited new
[45:27] revenue availability, which area should
[45:29] receive the highest consideration for
[45:31] funding? Employee wages was top along
[45:35] with highway infrastructure, public
[45:38] safety safety staffing, employee
[45:40] benefits, health and human services,
[45:43] economic development, technology. I know
[45:46] we're moving down facility maintenance
[45:47] capital improvements and tax levy
[45:50] stabilization minimizing tax increases.
[45:57] Please rank economic development in
[45:59] order of importance.
[46:01] Housing took the top.
[46:04] Um took top here.
[46:08] Which approach do you generally support
[46:10] when major needs arise? Most looked at
[46:13] 33% a combination of both of uh
[46:17] borrowing and pay outright pay
[46:21] uh debt as as needed.
[46:26] What level of importance do you place on
[46:27] maintaining competitive wages to recruit
[46:30] and retain employees?
[46:32] Very important and extremely important,
[46:35] moderately important. Um there's a
[46:37] strong showing here
[46:39] from the board that they place a big
[46:42] importance on employees and uh wages and
[46:45] benefits for employees.
[46:48] What level of importance do you place on
[46:50] maintaining competitive benefits? We
[46:52] just separated that out, try to get an
[46:54] idea um
[46:56] about the importance of benefits. Again,
[46:59] stayed pretty high.
[47:01] And these are the last part are all
[47:04] questions
[47:07] that you have in front of you.
[47:10] Are there
[47:12] questions regarding that? I think the
[47:14] biggest thing coming out of that will be
[47:17] we have priorities here
[47:19] um
[47:20] it comes to what will the funding look
[47:23] like for this year. So, we've got to
[47:25] take levy limits and new
[47:29] uh wait new uh funding that's coming
[47:32] forward that we can then we put all
[47:33] together as we develop the budget. We'll
[47:36] bring it back to you at the next month
[47:38] meeting to talk about this is what you
[47:41] have, this is what you want. Where are
[47:44] your priorities now with what you have?
[47:49] So, we'll do a little exercise in
[47:51] September to walk through that.
[47:57] Any other questions?
[48:01] Hearing none, we're going to move
[48:02] forward to resolutions.
[48:06] Joint Executive Finance Committee and
[48:09] Law Enforcement Committee resolution and
[48:11] accepting donations to Trempealeau
[48:13] County Sheriff's Office Badges, K9,
[48:15] Search and Rescue programs.
[48:19] Resolution 2026
[48:21] >> [cough]
[48:22] >> Excuse me. [clears throat] 0801. Whereas
[48:24] pursuant
[48:25] or whereas per Wisconsin Statute 59.52
[48:29] {parentheses} 19 a Wisconsin County
[48:31] Board may accept donations on behalf of
[48:33] the county for governmental purposes.
[48:36] Whereas consistent with Trempealeau
[48:37] County Ordinance 2.08 {parentheses} H
[48:41] the Trempealeau County Board may accept
[48:42] donations made to the county consistent
[48:44] with an with an approved donations
[48:46] policy and the most current Trempealeau
[48:48] County policy [clears throat] requires
[48:50] that donations exceeding $1,000 be
[48:52] approved through a specific procedure
[48:54] including by resolution and by committee
[48:56] review.
[48:57] Whereas the proposed donations are as
[48:59] follows with each to
[49:01] be specifically allocated to the
[49:02] Trempealeau County Sheriff's Office.
[49:04] Gilbert Brown Foundation $2,000.
[49:07] Buffalo Trempealeau County Tavern League
[49:09] $1,500.
[49:11] Ettrick Rod and Gun Club $2,000.
[49:14] Global Finishing Solutions $4,985.
[49:18] Whereas the donations are to be used for
[49:19] the Badges {slash} K9 {slash} Search and
[49:23] Rescue programs.
[49:25] Whereas the donations have been reviewed
[49:26] as required by the donations policy and
[49:29] no no one conflict of interest [cough]
[49:31] or pro
[49:32] prohibition was identified during the
[49:34] review process. Whereas that upon review
[49:37] and consideration of these donations the
[49:39] County Board finds that their acceptance
[49:42] will benefit the public good and will
[49:44] serve an appropriate governmental
[49:46] purpose.
[49:47] Now be it resolved that the Trempealeau
[49:48] County Board of Supervisors shall hereby
[49:51] shall hereby approves the receipt of
[49:53] these donations for the specific uses
[49:55] consistent with the donations themselves
[49:58] which shall be deposited into into
[50:00] account number 101-20-12-52102-462520.
[50:08] Be it further resolved that the
[50:09] Tri-County staff shall take actions on
[50:12] these donations as it otherwise and
[50:15] as it otherwise necessary to receive or
[50:17] effectuate these their receipt produced
[50:20] by law enforcement committee
[50:22] John Austin, Ron Johnson, Kristen
[50:23] Huesby, John Scott Leonard Andy Parrish
[50:27] and by executive finance committee
[50:29] Richard Anderson, Robert Becker, Paul
[50:31] Sieverson, Andy Todd, Kevin Wayland.
[50:34] >> All right, do I have a motion on the
[50:36] floor to approve the resolution
[50:38] accepting the donations? We have uh
[50:42] uh first by Johnson, second by Becker.
[50:45] Any discussion?
[50:46] >> Mr. Chair
[50:47] >> Yes, sir.
[50:48] >> So, um if there are additional donations
[50:51] that are received in the future
[50:54] do each one of those require a
[50:56] resolution like this to be accepted or
[50:59] is there a general
[51:01] policy that could be put forward?
[51:04] >> Don't steer me wrong in this and maybe
[51:05] Susan can answer that but I believe it
[51:07] has to come forward as a resolution,
[51:09] correct?
[51:09] >> It depends on the amount. Our donations
[51:11] policy is quite old.
[51:13] It needs to be updated and the amount in
[51:15] that old policy is $1,000, I believe.
[51:19] And so anything over that has to have a
[51:21] resolution. Uh anything under that can
[51:24] be dealt with depending on what's in
[51:26] there and I can send that to you. Down
[51:28] the line, my recommendation would be to
[51:30] update that policy. I think we talked
[51:31] about this in November I when we did the
[51:34] ordinance update, that ethics ordinance
[51:36] and the code of conduct but
[51:39] >> So Susan, is that on your general hit
[51:41] list of your
[51:42] of your policy update? Okay.
[51:44] >> There are several things that we need to
[51:46] update.
[51:49] >> Okay.
[51:49] >> Any other questions? Yes, sir.
[51:51] >> Mr. Chair, I think
[51:53] these organizations that are sending
[51:55] this money to the sheriff's office is
[51:57] overwhelming. It's great, just super. It
[52:00] helps the levy, it helps the sheriff's
[52:02] office, it helps the community. And
[52:05] kudos to these organizations as
[52:07] donating. I mean, you're talking
[52:10] what? 5 6 7 8 9 10, over $10,000 going
[52:13] to the sheriff's office and
[52:15] it it's been ongoing for several
[52:17] different years. I know Ashley Furniture
[52:20] has donated in the past a huge amount of
[52:22] money.
[52:23] And so
[52:25] I would ask that you as the chair get
[52:27] talk to the administrator and to the
[52:30] sheriff and maybe send a letter
[52:32] if and when this passes.
[52:34] Thanking each organization for the
[52:36] contribution to this organization.
[52:39] >> I think that's a fantastic idea.
[52:42] Any other comments?
[52:45] All right, I guess we will go ahead and
[52:46] take roll call. Go ahead, Mary.
[52:49] >> Robert Becker.
[52:50] >> Yes.
[52:51] >> Rene Lion.
[52:52] >> Yes.
[52:53] >> [clears throat]
[52:53] >> John Skog.
[52:54] >> Yes.
[52:55] >> David Larson.
[52:57] >> Yes.
[52:57] >> Kristin Husby.
[52:58] >> Yes.
[52:59] >> Ron Johnson.
[53:00] >> Yes.
[53:01] >> Andy Parrish.
[53:02] >> Yes.
[53:03] >> Rickert Todd.
[53:04] >> Yes.
[53:05] >> Lori Sieverson.
[53:06] >> Yes.
[53:06] >> Andy Todd.
[53:07] >> Yes.
[53:08] >> Richard Anderson.
[53:09] >> Yes.
[53:10] >> Scott Leonard.
[53:10] >> Yes.
[53:11] >> Paul Sieverson.
[53:12] >> Yes.
[53:12] >> Evan Waelen.
[53:13] >> Yes.
[53:14] >> John Olson.
[53:15] >> Yes.
[53:15] >> Don Trueg.
[53:16] >> Yes.
[53:16] >> 16.
[53:18] >> 16 0?
[53:19] >> Yeah.
[53:21] >> All right, we're going to move on. It
[53:22] passes. We're going to move on to
[53:23] resolution B, environmental land use
[53:27] committee, ordinance rezone for the town
[53:29] of Trempealeau. Mary, if you please read
[53:31] that.
[53:31] >> Resolution number 2026-08-2.
[53:35] Whereas Benjamin Schwartz,
[53:37] landowner/petitioner,
[53:39] Trempealeau, Wisconsin, has requested
[53:41] the rezone of a parcel in the land of
[53:43] town of Trempealeau in the order to
[53:44] create two lots. Whereas the rezone is
[53:47] approximately 13.48 acres more or less,
[53:50] and whereas a public hearing was held
[53:52] pursuant to section 59.69 {parentheses}
[53:54] 5 of the Wisconsin statutes. And whereas
[53:57] the town of Trempealeau supports the
[53:58] rezone request, and whereas the
[54:00] environment land use committee
[54:02] moved to rezone these parcels from
[54:03] transitional egg TA to residential eight
[54:07] R8, and that the zoning is appropriate
[54:09] under the circumstances. Now be it
[54:11] resolved that the Trempealeau County
[54:13] be resolved that Trempealeau County
[54:14] adopt the attached ordinance amending
[54:16] the zoning district boundaries as
[54:18] indicated. Introduced by environment
[54:20] land use committee, Tony Munson, David
[54:21] Larson, Randy Severson, Kevin Whalen,
[54:24] Ryker Todd, John Schow.
[54:26] >> All right, do I have a motion on the
[54:28] floor for accepting ordinance rezone for
[54:31] the Trempealeau or town of Trempealeau?
[54:33] >> So moved.
[54:34] >> All right, we have first motion by
[54:35] Husby.
[54:37] >> that.
[54:37] >> And we got the second by Schow.
[54:39] Any discussion?
[54:42] Questions?
[54:44] Yes, sir.
[54:44] >> I have one question. Is this two
[54:46] residential lots then that homes will be
[54:49] built on, or is this a multi-family type
[54:52] deal?
[54:53] >> We got the man that can answer it.
[54:54] >> You bet.
[54:55] >> He's He's He's building a home himself.
[54:58] And he wants to section off the home
[55:00] area versus the rest of the property. So
[55:02] at this time it's only one home.
[55:04] >> Very good.
[55:04] >> And actually in R8
[55:06] there would not be a multi-family
[55:08] dwelling allowed on R8 property.
[55:10] >> Okay.
[55:11] Thank you.
[55:12] >> I believe the town is okay with it.
[55:14] >> Yes, they are. We got a letter of
[55:15] support.
[55:16] >> Awesome. Thank you. Any other questions?
[55:20] All right, we're going to go ahead and
[55:21] take roll call. Clerk Mary.
[55:22] >> Ron Johnson.
[55:23] >> Yes.
[55:26] >> Andy Parrish.
[55:27] >> Yes.
[55:28] >> Ryker Todd.
[55:29] >> Yes.
[55:30] >> Larry Severson.
[55:31] >> Yes.
[55:31] >> Andy Todd.
[55:32] >> Yes.
[55:33] >> Richard Anderson.
[55:34] >> Yes.
[55:34] >> Scott [clears throat] Leonard.
[55:35] >> Yes.
[55:36] >> Paul Severson.
[55:37] >> Yes.
[55:37] >> Kevin Whalen?
[55:38] >> Yes.
[55:38] >> John Austin?
[55:39] >> Yes.
[55:40] >> Don True?
[55:40] >> Yes.
[55:41] >> Robert Becker?
[55:42] >> Yes.
[55:43] >> Renee Lyon?
[55:43] >> Yes.
[55:44] >> John Schowalter?
[55:45] >> Yes.
[55:45] >> David Larson?
[55:47] >> Yes.
[55:47] >> Kristen Husby?
[55:48] >> Yes.
[55:49] >> 16 to 0.
[55:50] >> All right. Passes 16 to 0.
[55:53] Let's move on to C, Health and Human
[55:55] Services Board, number two, Sustainable
[55:58] State Funding for Local Public Health
[56:00] Departments. If I could ask you to
[56:02] please read that resolution.
[56:04] >> Yes.
[56:04] >> Thanks, Mary.
[56:05] >> Resolution number 2026-08-04.
[56:08] Whereas in Wisconsin, local public
[56:10] health departments are legally required
[56:12] to provide a core set of public health
[56:14] services under Wisconsin statute chapter
[56:16] 202.251
[56:19] and Wisconsin administrative code
[56:21] chapter DHS 140. And whereas the
[56:24] responsibilities of local public health
[56:27] departments have expanded significantly
[56:28] in recent years due to emerging public
[56:30] health threats, workforce shortages, and
[56:32] increasing community health needs. And
[56:34] whereas local public health departments
[56:36] rely heavily on a combination of limited
[56:39] state aids categorical grants and local
[56:42] property tax levy to fund these mandated
[56:45] services. And whereas current state
[56:47] funding mechanisms for public health are
[56:49] largely outdated, not indexed to
[56:51] inflation, and do not reflect the true
[56:53] cost of delivering foundational public
[56:56] health services.
[56:57] And whereas Wisconsin currently ranks
[56:59] 49th lowest in the state dollars
[57:01] dedicated to public health per person
[57:02] according to America's Health Rankings
[57:05] website. And whereas public health
[57:07] initiatives consistently deliver high
[57:08] returns on investments, ROI, with with
[57:12] recent data showing a median ROI of 14.3
[57:15] to 1, often saving $14 in medical and
[57:19] societal costs
[57:21] for every $1 spent.
[57:23] And whereas reliance on short-term
[57:25] restricted or competitive grant funding
[57:27] creates instability and limits long-term
[57:30] spending for local public health
[57:31] departments, and whereas counties bear a
[57:33] disproportionate share of the financial
[57:36] burden for providing foundational public
[57:37] health services,
[57:39] placing additional pressure on local
[57:40] property tax payers,
[57:43] and whereas a strong and adequately
[57:44] funded public health system is essential
[57:46] to protect the health, safety, and
[57:48] economic stability of Wisconsin
[57:49] residents and communities. Now, be it
[57:51] resolved that the Trempealeau County
[57:52] Board of Supervisors supports continuing
[57:55] to build and retain public health
[57:57] infrastructure and workforce in
[57:59] Wisconsin,
[58:00] increased and flexible funding dedicated
[58:02] to local public health departments, and
[58:04] be it further resolved that such funding
[58:06] model should provide increased general
[58:09] purpose revenue GPR support to local
[58:11] public health departments,
[58:13] increase automatic inflationary
[58:15] adjustments,
[58:18] allow for flexible use of funds to meet
[58:20] local needs and reduce reliance on
[58:22] short-term, restricted, and/or
[58:23] competitive grants.
[58:25] And be it further resolved that the
[58:26] Trempealeau County Board of Supervisors
[58:27] recognizes public health as a core
[58:29] governmental function and supports
[58:31] sustained investment in public health
[58:33] services to ensure consistent
[58:36] a service
[58:38] uh delivery across all jurisdictions
[58:40] And be it further resolved that the
[58:41] Trempealeau
[58:44] County Board of Supervisors supports the
[58:46] Wisconsin Counties Association in
[58:47] advocating for policies that reduce the
[58:50] reliance on local property tax levy
[58:53] to fund foundational local public health
[58:55] services and main local maintain local
[58:58] public health workforce. And be it
[59:00] finally resolved that a copy of this
[59:01] resolution be forwarded to the governor
[59:03] of Wisconsin members of Wisconsin State
[59:05] Legis- Legislator, Legislature, the
[59:08] Wisconsin Department of Health Services,
[59:10] and all Wisconsin counties.
[59:12] Introduced by Health and Human Services
[59:13] Board, Bridget Turner, Renee Lyon, Ron
[59:16] Johnson, Don Krug, Scott Leonard,
[59:19] Kimberly Braidenback, William Baxa,
[59:21] Scott
[59:22] Brown, and Karen Onstead.
[59:25] >> All right. Do I have a motion on the
[59:26] floor to substantial state funding for
[59:28] local public health departments?
[59:30] >> Mr. Mr.
[59:31] >> Oh, okay. I was just going to read I'll
[59:33] second.
[59:35] >> Who was the first?
[59:36] >> I was I was [laughter] going to recite
[59:38] the [clears throat] title of the
[59:39] resolution.
[59:39] >> no worries. No worries. We got Truog for
[59:41] doing the first and we have Lyons for
[59:43] second.
[59:44] All right, any discussion on the floor?
[59:46] Um if anybody has any questions, we'll
[59:48] ask Jay to step on up.
[59:51] Any questions?
[59:52] >> The only thought that occurred to me is
[59:55] if we forward it
[59:57] >> If we forward it on now, um
[1:00:00] should should this be done after the new
[1:00:03] governor is installed or is there a
[1:00:05] continuity of something like that? Jay,
[1:00:08] cuz I fully support the resolution. It's
[1:00:09] just a question of timing.
[1:00:14] >> I did think about that as well and uh we
[1:00:17] are joining with other counties that are
[1:00:18] doing it right now
[1:00:19] um across the state. So, a lot of them
[1:00:21] are in our region. Health officers have
[1:00:22] been talking about this and we actually
[1:00:25] Mary received a number of um
[1:00:27] resolutions that had passed. I think was
[1:00:29] it from Wood County and Clark County at
[1:00:31] least, right? Um and I know others are
[1:00:33] considering it right now. So,
[1:00:35] >> [clears throat]
[1:00:36] >> yeah, I I It's like it's a good point
[1:00:38] and it's a good question to ask, but
[1:00:40] >> May- maybe when we forward it in the
[1:00:42] WCA, have them resubmit it after the
[1:00:45] election.
[1:00:45] >> that's a really good idea. Yeah. Yeah,
[1:00:47] to forward to reforward that and bring
[1:00:49] it back to put it on people's radar.
[1:00:51] >> John, are you okay? Can I ask what was
[1:00:53] your question cuz I didn't hear it? Just
[1:00:54] >> Well, the question was the timing of
[1:00:57] submission. I think it's a great
[1:00:58] resolution, but is it going to fall into
[1:01:01] a lame duck session?
[1:01:04] >> Got it.
[1:01:04] >> We get a new governor in November.
[1:01:06] >> Got it.
[1:01:07] >> So, timing was just the question.
[1:01:10] >> Any other questions for Jay while he's
[1:01:12] standing up there for us?
[1:01:16] Hearing none, we're going to take roll
[1:01:17] call. Mary, if you could, please.
[1:01:18] >> John Awesome.
[1:01:20] >> Yes.
[1:01:21] >> Don Truog. [clears throat]
[1:01:22] >> Yes. Robert Becker.
[1:01:23] >> Yes.
[1:01:25] >> Is that yes?
[1:01:26] >> Yes.
[1:01:27] >> Sorry. Renee Lyon.
[1:01:28] >> Yes.
[1:01:29] >> Jon Schould.
[1:01:30] >> Yes.
[1:01:31] >> David Larson.
[1:01:33] >> Yes.
[1:01:34] >> Kristen Husby.
[1:01:35] >> Yes.
[1:01:35] >> Ron Johnson.
[1:01:36] >> Yes.
[1:01:38] >> Andy Parrish.
[1:01:38] >> No.
[1:01:40] >> Greggor Todd.
[1:01:41] >> Yes.
[1:01:42] >> Lori Severson.
[1:01:43] >> Yes.
[1:01:44] >> Andy Todd.
[1:01:45] >> Yes.
[1:01:46] >> Richard Anderson.
[1:01:46] >> Yes.
[1:01:47] >> Scott Leonard.
[1:01:48] >> Yes.
[1:01:49] >> Paul Severson.
[1:01:50] >> Yes.
[1:01:51] >> Kevin Wayland.
[1:01:51] >> Yes.
[1:01:54] >> 15 to 1.
[1:01:56] >> All right, 15 to 1. It passes.
[1:01:59] All right, we're going to move over to
[1:02:00] resolution D, Executive Finance
[1:02:03] Committee, transferring committee
[1:02:04] oversight of District Attorney's Office.
[1:02:07] Mary, will you please read the
[1:02:08] resolution?
[1:02:09] >> Yep. Resolution number 2026-08-05.
[1:02:14] Whereas the Trempealeau County District
[1:02:15] Attorney's Office performs duties and
[1:02:17] exercises authority established by the
[1:02:19] Wisconsin Constitution and Wisconsin
[1:02:21] statutes. Whereas the District
[1:02:22] Attorney's Office is currently assigned
[1:02:24] to the Law Enforcement Committee for
[1:02:25] purposes of county committee oversight.
[1:02:28] And whereas recent discussion concerning
[1:02:30] the appropriate committee assignment to
[1:02:32] the of the District Attorney's Office
[1:02:33] has provided the County Board an
[1:02:35] appropriate opportunity to review
[1:02:37] whether the current organizational
[1:02:38] structure remains the best functional
[1:02:40] fit for the office.
[1:02:41] And whereas the County Board has
[1:02:43] determined that the county's lawful
[1:02:44] oversight of the District Attorney's
[1:02:46] Office is primarily administrative,
[1:02:48] personnel, budgetary, and policy related
[1:02:51] and is therefore more appropriately
[1:02:53] aligned with the responsibilities of the
[1:02:55] exec- Executive Finance Committee.
[1:02:57] And whereas transferring committee
[1:02:59] oversight of the District Attorney's
[1:03:00] Office to the Executive Finance
[1:03:02] Committee will clarify the county's
[1:03:03] organizational structure and provide
[1:03:05] greater consistency in administrative
[1:03:07] and financial oversight.
[1:03:09] Whereas nothing in this resolution is
[1:03:11] intended to interfere with the limit
[1:03:13] with or a limit the independent
[1:03:16] constitutional statutory authority
[1:03:19] duties discretion or prosecutorial
[1:03:22] decision-making
[1:03:24] of the elected District Attorney. Be it
[1:03:26] further resolved that the Trump County
[1:03:27] Board of Supervisors hereby transfers
[1:03:30] committee oversight of the Trump County
[1:03:32] District Attorney's office from the Law
[1:03:33] Enforcement Committee to the Executive
[1:03:35] Finance Committee. Be it further
[1:03:37] resolved that the Executive Finance
[1:03:38] Committee shall assume those
[1:03:40] administrative personnel budgetary and
[1:03:42] policy oversight responsibilities
[1:03:44] concerning the District Attorney's
[1:03:46] office that are within the lawful
[1:03:47] authority of the County Board and its
[1:03:49] committees.
[1:03:50] Be it further resolved that this
[1:03:51] resolution shall not be construed to
[1:03:53] grant the Executive Finance Committee
[1:03:55] authority over prosecutorial
[1:03:58] decisions
[1:03:59] charging decisions, case management,
[1:04:02] legal strategy, or any other matter
[1:04:04] committed by law to the District
[1:04:06] Attorney. Be it further resolved that
[1:04:08] all applicable county policies,
[1:04:10] committee assignments, organizational
[1:04:12] documents, and other county records
[1:04:14] shall be updated as necessary
[1:04:16] to reflect the transfer of committee
[1:04:18] oversight established by this
[1:04:19] resolution.
[1:04:20] Be it further resolved that this
[1:04:22] resolution shall become effective
[1:04:23] immediately upon adoption.
[1:04:26] Introduced by Executive Finance
[1:04:28] Committee, Andy Todd, Richard Anderson,
[1:04:30] Robert Becker, Paul Sieverson, Kevin
[1:04:32] Waylon.
[1:04:34] >> Do I have a motion on the floor for
[1:04:35] transferring committee oversight of
[1:04:37] District Attorney's office from Law
[1:04:39] Enforcement Committee to Exec Finance
[1:04:41] Committee?
[1:04:46] >> I'll make that a motion.
[1:04:49] >> The motion first motion by Mr. Anderson.
[1:04:52] >> I'll second that motion.
[1:04:53] >> We have second motion by Mr. Waylon.
[1:04:56] Any discussion?
[1:04:58] >> I have an amendment.
[1:05:00] Can I add an amendment?
[1:05:02] >> You can.
[1:05:02] >> Okay. At the end of the first whereas
[1:05:07] where it says Law Enforcement to the
[1:05:09] Executive Finance Committee, I would
[1:05:10] like to add and oversight of the
[1:05:13] Executive Finance Committee to the
[1:05:14] Highway Department.
[1:05:19] Or to the Highway Committee.
[1:05:26] >> Can you explain that?
[1:05:28] >> Well, I mean, sure. If we're moving
[1:05:29] things around, I mean, if we're moving
[1:05:30] things around
[1:05:31] >> discuss. [clears throat] I'm sorry. Do I
[1:05:32] have a second on the floor? I'm sorry.
[1:05:38] >> I'll second it for discussion.
[1:05:40] >> All right. We have a first by um Mr.
[1:05:42] Parris. We have a second by Mr. Hasson.
[1:05:45] John, yes.
[1:05:47] And discussion.
[1:05:49] >> Yeah, I I
[1:05:50] I think I can see where Handy's going. I
[1:05:53] mean, my question is um
[1:05:55] what problem are we trying to solve?
[1:06:02] You usually when you make structural
[1:06:04] changes, there's a very good reason. And
[1:06:06] so far, what the I was at the Executive
[1:06:09] Finance Committee. I did not hear a good
[1:06:11] reason. So, I'm I'm asking you
[1:06:14] explain it. Please.
[1:06:17] >> I Go on.
[1:06:18] I can explain it.
[1:06:20] Just [clears throat] like I did on
[1:06:21] Executive Finance Committee when you
[1:06:22] were there. It's the idea when it comes
[1:06:24] to looking at the um if you look at the
[1:06:27] resolution when it basically says um the
[1:06:29] idea of trying to eliminate
[1:06:31] overspending.
[1:06:33] So, talking to John, John was there on
[1:06:35] the Executive Finance Committee, the
[1:06:36] ones that weren't there, um basically
[1:06:38] um
[1:06:40] I don't know if he's ever been to a law
[1:06:42] enforcement, maybe a couple times he's
[1:06:44] been to a law enforcement committee. Um
[1:06:46] when it comes to that, so we got to one
[1:06:47] we're paying for setting up a law
[1:06:49] enforcement committee for a let's say a
[1:06:51] resolution that will go through when it
[1:06:53] has most of deals with administration.
[1:06:56] Or and then you got to go to the
[1:06:57] Executive Finance Committee, then you
[1:06:58] got to go to the full board. Well, the
[1:07:01] processes are longer, cost more money,
[1:07:04] and there's more
[1:07:06] there's nothing when it comes to when it
[1:07:07] law-wise
[1:07:09] that we need to discuss it in law
[1:07:11] enforcement. We discussed possibly we
[1:07:13] could um if there's something that's
[1:07:15] coming up that needs to be presented to
[1:07:17] the law enforcement committee, we can
[1:07:19] refer that to a law enforcement
[1:07:21] committee. But to try to save money,
[1:07:23] save taxpayer money, save the time um
[1:07:26] moving that um from law enforcement to
[1:07:29] the executive finance committee.
[1:07:30] >> Mr. Chair.
[1:07:31] >> Yes.
[1:07:31] >> I would like to comment as a member of
[1:07:33] law enforcement committee and now as a
[1:07:36] member of executive finance
[1:07:39] as much as we were there at the law
[1:07:40] enforcement committee, most of the
[1:07:42] material that we dealt with did not deal
[1:07:44] specifically with the DA.
[1:07:46] And for efficiency as far as to get it
[1:07:48] passed and go through one committee
[1:07:51] it would be very much it'd be not only
[1:07:53] economical but much more effective as
[1:07:55] far as government to only have to answer
[1:07:58] to the executive and the finance
[1:08:00] committee with what the questions have
[1:08:01] come up before.
[1:08:03] Because when I was on for the one term,
[1:08:05] only 2 years
[1:08:07] John
[1:08:08] appeared one time.
[1:08:10] And at that one time appearance, it
[1:08:12] wasn't something that was uh beyond
[1:08:14] administration and finance.
[1:08:16] It wasn't related to law enforcement
[1:08:18] which you know as you understand
[1:08:21] we want them working together for the
[1:08:22] law enforcement part of it but it wasn't
[1:08:24] what was needed at that committee
[1:08:26] meeting.
[1:08:27] >> Okay, thank you. Go ahead. Mr.
[1:08:30] >> I still think that begs the question
[1:08:32] then of what problem are we trying to
[1:08:33] solve if the district attorney hasn't
[1:08:36] had issues with the current structure
[1:08:38] then I'm not sure why we would make a
[1:08:41] change and it feels a little bit like
[1:08:44] we're saying that the committee level is
[1:08:48] um
[1:08:49] is not for the purpose of administration
[1:08:52] and that really is a purpose of the
[1:08:55] committee level is to um to to work on
[1:08:59] policy and to approve various things at
[1:09:03] a committee level before it comes to
[1:09:05] exact finance. So honestly, this feels a
[1:09:07] lot like a slippery slope to me.
[1:09:09] So what's the next committee that we're
[1:09:11] going to decide doesn't need to come to
[1:09:13] a a a a committee before it goes to
[1:09:16] finance finance finance and executive
[1:09:19] committee. I I don't see the reasoning
[1:09:21] why this one particular thing would get
[1:09:23] pulled out and then if it does, why
[1:09:25] wouldn't we do the same thing for the
[1:09:27] [clears throat] rest of the committees?
[1:09:28] >> Well, the
[1:09:28] >> Mr. Chair, I'm sorry. Did you want to
[1:09:30] answer?
[1:09:31] >> No, no, go ahead.
[1:09:32] >> Um I have a couple questions feeding off
[1:09:34] um Ms. Trox's comment about
[1:09:38] things that are addressed in committee
[1:09:40] policy.
[1:09:42] Policy addressed in law enforcement. I
[1:09:45] actually think the law enforcement
[1:09:46] committee
[1:09:48] might be the more appropriate committee
[1:09:50] to talk about policy with the district
[1:09:53] attorney than executive finance. When it
[1:09:55] comes to budget, when it comes to
[1:09:57] budget, asking for for example, um
[1:10:00] drones, asking for certain things,
[1:10:04] asking for something special. I think
[1:10:06] the law enforcement committee is going
[1:10:08] to be a much more appropriate
[1:10:11] uh venue to for the district attorney to
[1:10:13] dis- discuss those things than executive
[1:10:15] finance. Yes, it's going to come to
[1:10:17] executive finance. All departments have
[1:10:19] that issue. You know, I've I've been
[1:10:22] director of a department and it's not
[1:10:24] unusual to go to your standing committee
[1:10:27] and then executive and then the full
[1:10:28] board. That is not unusual.
[1:10:31] Um
[1:10:32] Another question I have is
[1:10:34] why was this not approved by the law
[1:10:38] enforcement committee?
[1:10:39] >> And in in in fact, may I speak?
[1:10:42] >> Yeah, absolutely.
[1:10:43] >> And in fact, according to
[1:10:46] the executive finance committee,
[1:10:49] Mr. Sacia
[1:10:50] was made aware of this change but wasn't
[1:10:52] involved in the conversation related to
[1:10:54] the decision and hasn't really had a
[1:10:56] time to really digest that either.
[1:11:00] You know, what's the urgency?
[1:11:02] >> I'm not saying there's an I'm not saying
[1:11:04] there's
[1:11:04] >> had a special meeting today for it.
[1:11:06] >> Just so we can get it through the exact
[1:11:07] fine from exact finance to here. But
[1:11:09] there's other things that we had in that
[1:11:12] meeting. We just added that to that
[1:11:14] meeting.
[1:11:14] >> Well, I understood that this was the
[1:11:16] reason for the meeting and the other
[1:11:18] things actually got added on as a
[1:11:19] dovetail since you were having a special
[1:11:21] meeting.
[1:11:22] >> I suppose. I mean, I guess you can look
[1:11:24] at it that way.
[1:11:24] >> money on a special meeting, but we want
[1:11:26] to eliminate money for
[1:11:28] processes
[1:11:30] to streamline. Which
[1:11:31] >> Well, the efficiency argument doesn't
[1:11:33] hold either because if it's that
[1:11:35] infrequent where he actually comes to
[1:11:38] the law enforcement, there's no savings
[1:11:40] really.
[1:11:42] >> True.
[1:11:44] >> And I again, I would I would reiterate
[1:11:46] that um
[1:11:48] I really think law enforcement
[1:11:50] should have been involved in this. It It
[1:11:52] just
[1:11:54] It just seems a little sus- suspect. I I
[1:11:55] It just does It makes you wonder why is
[1:11:57] this happening and so quickly under
[1:11:59] these circumstances.
[1:12:01] >> [clears throat]
[1:12:01] >> And I will say again, I think that
[1:12:03] whatever the district attorney wants to
[1:12:04] discuss in committee, the law
[1:12:07] enforcement committee is going to be
[1:12:08] much better equipped to deal with those
[1:12:10] issues.
[1:12:12] And they'll have more knowledge and
[1:12:14] background because they're dealing with
[1:12:16] law enforcement through the sheriff's
[1:12:17] department. Sheriff's department and
[1:12:19] district attorney do have a lot of
[1:12:21] connectivity. It just seems to make
[1:12:23] sense for the district attorney to
[1:12:25] remain under law enforcement.
[1:12:28] >> Go ahead. Two different things to
[1:12:31] um
[1:12:32] Don, I think that the
[1:12:35] if my memory serves me correct, the
[1:12:37] reason that we had the
[1:12:39] um
[1:12:40] executive finance meeting earlier
[1:12:43] initially was to talk about action on
[1:12:45] conduct ethics complaint form.
[1:12:48] It wasn't? I thought it was.
[1:12:51] >> No, I was mistaken.
[1:12:52] >> Then I I'm wrong.
[1:12:54] But uh it Can we uh Is there a How do we
[1:12:57] do this? Can we table this or uh till
[1:13:01] next month and maybe put a little more
[1:13:04] get more insight into this and discuss
[1:13:07] it and
[1:13:09] for next month?
[1:13:10] >> I think what we need to do is we need to
[1:13:11] vote on the uh amendment first.
[1:13:14] >> Okay.
[1:13:14] >> Yeah. My amendment would essentially
[1:13:15] make Mr. Austin chair.
[1:13:20] Because I'm shifting executive finance
[1:13:23] that complete oversight
[1:13:25] to the highway department. To the
[1:13:27] highway committee. That's what we're
[1:13:29] voting on. Since we're going to mess
[1:13:30] around with committees, I thought I'd
[1:13:31] play, too.
[1:13:34] >> Any other discussion?
[1:13:36] >> I didn't realize that's what I seconded.
[1:13:38] I I was wondering what it had to do with
[1:13:40] highway in the first place, you
[1:13:41] [laughter] know.
[1:13:42] But I seconded it just for the sake of
[1:13:44] discussion and I think we got into a
[1:13:46] discussion that I wasn't expecting.
[1:13:49] >> [laughter]
[1:13:49] >> To me, I I agree with everyone that I
[1:13:51] think it should remain with law
[1:13:54] enforcement.
[1:13:56] And then go to exec finance.
[1:13:57] >> Mr. Chair,
[1:13:58] >> Yes.
[1:13:58] >> we should be discussing the amendment
[1:14:01] that Mr. Parrish brought up. That's what
[1:14:03] the discussion be should be pertaining
[1:14:05] to, not to the the main motion, but the
[1:14:08] amendment that's on the floor.
[1:14:11] >> And the amendment
[1:14:11] >> was to move it to
[1:14:14] highway committee.
[1:14:16] >> [laughter]
[1:14:16] >> Mr. Chair, would it be appropriate for
[1:14:18] me to
[1:14:20] uh request a motion to postpone
[1:14:21] indefinitely while it's on the floor for
[1:14:25] discussion?
[1:14:26] >> We have to vote on this.
[1:14:28] >> Right now
[1:14:29] >> I That's That's not what I'm
[1:14:30] understanding. I might be
[1:14:31] misunderstanding the policy.
[1:14:34] >> We have to first
[1:14:35] >> I would ask
[1:14:36] >> You have to do the amendment first.
[1:14:37] >> I would ask our corporation counsel to
[1:14:39] answer this question. Thank you. I'm
[1:14:42] reading policy. The policy
[1:14:44] >> Okay, I want to Oh,
[1:14:45] call to order here. We don't want to
[1:14:47] discuss between each other because that
[1:14:49] causes hostility and we don't we don't
[1:14:51] want that. So I appreciate that.
[1:14:52] >> like to request that this be
[1:14:55] I'm not engaging in the argument here.
[1:14:58] >> So it depends on how the motion is and
[1:15:00] I'm looking at that basic information
[1:15:02] that should be in front of each one of
[1:15:03] you and I'm looking at number three.
[1:15:06] And I so this essentially depends on
[1:15:08] what the motion is and if I look at
[1:15:10] number three
[1:15:11] and I go up to number three
[1:15:14] it does say that an amendment can be
[1:15:17] amended.
[1:15:18] I and so I
[1:15:20] now that becomes fun cuz we got to go
[1:15:23] out when we go back in, right?
[1:15:25] >> Yep.
[1:15:26] >> I and so we got to be mindful of that.
[1:15:28] So if there's amendment to the
[1:15:29] amendment, we need to do with the
[1:15:30] amendment to the amendment first and
[1:15:32] then the amendment and then the main
[1:15:33] motion.
[1:15:34] I but depending on what I the board or
[1:15:38] each supervisor wants to do and it's
[1:15:40] possible, excuse me, [clears throat] to
[1:15:41] have an amendment.
[1:15:42] >> Can can we vote on the amendment and
[1:15:45] then introduce additional amendments?
[1:15:47] >> you can do that as well.
[1:15:48] >> Okay.
[1:15:49] >> Thank you.
[1:15:52] >> [clears throat]
[1:15:52] >> So we're going to vote on the amendment
[1:15:55] that Mr. Paris brought forward.
[1:16:00] Something to do with the highway.
[1:16:01] >> That was to move the highway.
[1:16:03] >> To move the highway.
[1:16:03] >> Mr. Chairman, it moves. Let me read it
[1:16:05] again so everyone's clear what we're
[1:16:07] voting on.
[1:16:08] Um but we are it will say
[1:16:12] Now be it resolved that the Trempealeau
[1:16:13] County Board of Supervisors hereby
[1:16:15] transfers committee oversight of the
[1:16:16] Trempealeau County District Attorney's
[1:16:18] Office from the Law Enforcement
[1:16:19] Committee to Executive Finance Committee
[1:16:22] and oversight of the Executive Finance
[1:16:24] Committee to the Highway Committee.
[1:16:27] That's my amendment.
[1:16:33] >> That's what his amendment was.
[1:16:35] >> That's what we're voting on.
[1:16:36] >> And we had a second to John and that's
[1:16:37] what we're voting on now.
[1:16:39] So should we do a roll
[1:16:40] >> I request a roll call vote.
[1:16:43] >> I believe we should do a roll call vote.
[1:16:53] Amendment to transfer to the
[1:16:56] highway.
[1:17:01] Richard Anderson
[1:17:03] >> No.
[1:17:04] >> Scott Leonard
[1:17:05] >> No.
[1:17:06] >> Paul Sieverson
[1:17:07] >> No.
[1:17:08] >> Kevin Wayland
[1:17:09] >> No.
[1:17:10] >> John Austin
[1:17:11] >> No.
[1:17:12] >> Don Shrub
[1:17:13] >> No.
[1:17:14] >> Robert Becker
[1:17:15] >> No.
[1:17:16] >> Rene Lyon
[1:17:17] >> No.
[1:17:18] >> John Skog
[1:17:19] >> No.
[1:17:20] >> David Larson
[1:17:22] >> No.
[1:17:23] >> Kristen Husby
[1:17:24] >> No.
[1:17:25] >> Ron Johnson
[1:17:26] >> No.
[1:17:27] >> Andy Parrish
[1:17:28] >> I'm going to vote no just now that we
[1:17:30] have set a precedent that we don't mess
[1:17:31] around with committee structures as a
[1:17:33] board and it means nothing.
[1:17:35] >> we're just answering the question. Thank
[1:17:36] you.
[1:17:37] >> Rykert Todd
[1:17:38] >> No. [clears throat]
[1:17:39] >> Lori Sieverson
[1:17:40] >> No.
[1:17:41] >> Andy Todd
[1:17:41] >> No.
[1:17:43] >> 16 to zero
[1:17:45] >> 16 to zero
[1:17:46] >> Amendment failed.
[1:17:47] >> Amendment failed. All right, any other
[1:17:49] discussion
[1:17:51] on
[1:17:54] moving the the original motion.
[1:17:58] >> And again, I I apologize, but I'm not
[1:18:01] completely clear on when I can make this
[1:18:03] motion and that's why I wanted
[1:18:06] corporation counsel to answer this
[1:18:07] question. From what I'm seeing in this
[1:18:10] policy from 2024,
[1:18:12] that this kind of a motion is introduced
[1:18:14] when
[1:18:16] the item is on the floor.
[1:18:18] And it's on the floor after a motion is
[1:18:19] made, correct? So, my motion would be
[1:18:23] if I can
[1:18:24] to postpone indefinitely.
[1:18:27] >> Yes, that is if you want to the issue to
[1:18:30] be done, that is what the motion is and
[1:18:33] you can do it now.
[1:18:34] >> I'll second that.
[1:18:36] >> So, we got a first by line in the motion
[1:18:39] and a second by Mr. Paris.
[1:18:41] Um
[1:18:42] >> Our third.
[1:18:43] >> postpone indefinitely any discussion.
[1:18:46] >> May Yes, may
[1:18:47] >> We don't go ahead. There's no discussion
[1:18:48] on this, Mr. Chair.
[1:18:49] >> Wait.
[1:18:50] On postpone, there's discussion. Table,
[1:18:51] there's not.
[1:18:52] >> Okay. Can we just get that on the
[1:18:53] record, Susan?
[1:18:54] >> Yes, again, if we want to turn to the
[1:18:56] same document, now I'm on number two,
[1:18:58] headed to be debated. Yes.
[1:19:01] So.
[1:19:02] >> Okay. Go ahead.
[1:19:03] >> I would just ask that corporation
[1:19:05] council tell tells me what that means
[1:19:07] again. Postpone indefinitely.
[1:19:10] >> You know, I
[1:19:11] that and table are table and are fun and
[1:19:13] they're often confused and sometimes one
[1:19:16] means one and one and the intent is the
[1:19:18] other. Here, it means that the
[1:19:20] discussion is done on this issue and
[1:19:22] it's done
[1:19:24] forever.
[1:19:26] >> Okay, thank you.
[1:19:30] >> So, we have a first and a second. Any
[1:19:31] other discussion?
[1:19:34] >> My question is down the road, does that
[1:19:36] affect other county board members say
[1:19:39] 10, 20 years from now?
[1:19:41] >> No.
[1:19:42] >> Okay.
[1:19:43] >> No. I
[1:19:44] You know, I there are other times where
[1:19:46] we may want to talk about committees. We
[1:19:48] may want to talk about committee
[1:19:50] structures.
[1:19:51] Later on today, I'm going to talk about
[1:19:53] other parts of chapter two.
[1:19:56] It's going to depend on what is the
[1:19:59] specific agenda item that is before the
[1:20:01] committee or the board here.
[1:20:03] >> Doesn't it
[1:20:05] kind of
[1:20:07] in a new election, it could be brought
[1:20:09] up again.
[1:20:10] >> I've heard that. I'm not sure where
[1:20:12] exactly that is is coming from because
[1:20:14] there can be variations where things can
[1:20:16] be brought back again. The agenda item
[1:20:19] is what we are voting on today.
[1:20:21] >> Mr. Chair.
[1:20:22] >> Yes.
[1:20:22] >> I'm going back to the
[1:20:24] Andy Phillips council as far as on
[1:20:26] parliamentary law that a postpone
[1:20:29] indefinitely
[1:20:31] removes it from this course of 2 years.
[1:20:34] So, John would be correct that when a
[1:20:36] new board would be elected, that's what
[1:20:39] Andy had stated when we had the chairs
[1:20:41] forum. I asked the specific question and
[1:20:44] it would back you, John, that it
[1:20:46] postponed indefinitely would last for
[1:20:47] the term of your office for this
[1:20:49] session. So, when the session was over,
[1:20:52] then the topic, the resolution could
[1:20:53] come back up again.
[1:20:56] >> Chair, if I may, just as a
[1:20:57] clarification, that that helps provide
[1:20:59] me with the information, but I again,
[1:21:01] it's tied to the agenda item.
[1:21:03] >> Yes, it is.
[1:21:07] >> All right, any other discussion?
[1:21:10] All right, I suggest we do a roll call
[1:21:12] vote. Please, Mary.
[1:21:14] And the roll call is to suspend postpone
[1:21:17] it indefinitely.
[1:21:22] >> John Skog.
[1:21:24] >> Yes.
[1:21:25] >> David Larson.
[1:21:27] >> Yes.
[1:21:28] >> Kristen Heusby.
[1:21:29] >> Yes.
[1:21:30] >> Ron Johnson.
[1:21:31] >> Yes.
[1:21:32] >> Andy Parrish.
[1:21:33] >> Yes.
[1:21:34] >> Ricker Todd.
[1:21:35] >> No.
[1:21:36] >> Lori Severson.
[1:21:40] >> Yes.
[1:21:42] >> Andy Todd.
[1:21:43] >> No.
[1:21:44] >> Richard Anderson.
[1:21:45] >> No.
[1:21:46] >> Scott Leonard.
[1:21:47] >> No.
[1:21:48] >> Paul Severson.
[1:21:49] >> No.
[1:21:50] >> Kevin Whalen.
[1:21:51] >> No.
[1:21:52] >> John Ausen.
[1:21:53] >> Yes.
[1:21:54] >> Don Trug.
[1:21:55] >> Yes.
[1:21:56] >> Robert Becker.
[1:21:58] >> No.
[1:21:59] >> Renee Lyon.
[1:22:00] >> Yes.
[1:22:02] >> 1 2 3
[1:22:03] 4 5 6 7 8 9
[1:22:06] 2 3
[1:22:07] 4 5 6 7
[1:22:09] 9 to 7
[1:22:10] >> 9 to 7
[1:22:13] >> And it's
[1:22:14] passes.
[1:22:15] >> 9 to 7.
[1:22:15] >> Okay, 9 to 7, that passes.
[1:22:20] All right, we're going to move on to
[1:22:23] resolution E, audit committee, claims of
[1:22:26] members. If I could please ask you to
[1:22:28] read that, Mary.
[1:22:32] >> Resolution number 2026-08-06.
[1:22:36] Whereas the audit committee has audited
[1:22:37] the following claims and recommend that
[1:22:39] they be allowed as follows. John Ausen,
[1:22:41] $384.40.
[1:22:44] Richard Anderson, $878.58.
[1:22:47] Robert Becker, $355.30.
[1:22:51] Kristen Hughesby, $422.
[1:22:53] Ron Johnson, $462.60.
[1:22:56] David Larson, $692.50.
[1:23:00] Scott Leonard, $497.80.
[1:23:03] Renee Lyon, $405.
[1:23:05] Andy Parrish, $832.
[1:23:07] Lori Sieverson, zero.
[1:23:09] John Skog, $670.
[1:23:11] Paul Sieverson, $521.40.
[1:23:15] Andy Todd, $1521.28.
[1:23:18] Riker Todd, $592.05.
[1:23:22] Don Trueg, zero. Bridget Turner,
[1:23:24] $404.20.
[1:23:26] Kevin Wayland, $1092.
[1:23:29] Grand total per diem, $7820.
[1:23:33] Total expenses, $1911.11.
[1:23:37] Grand total, $9731.11.
[1:23:42] Now be it resolved that the claims be
[1:23:43] allowed as shown, introduced by audit
[1:23:45] committee Andy Todd, Kevin Wayland, John
[1:23:47] Ausen.
[1:23:48] >> Do I have a motion on the floor for the
[1:23:50] claims of the members?
[1:23:52] >> Motion to approve.
[1:23:53] >> We got John Ausen as the first. Any
[1:23:55] second?
[1:23:56] >> Lori.
[1:23:57] >> Oh, Lori. Lori Sieverson is second.
[1:24:00] Any discussion?
[1:24:04] All right, we'll take a roll call vote,
[1:24:05] Mary, please.
[1:24:06] >> All right. Paul Sieverson.
[1:24:09] >> Yes.
[1:24:10] >> Kevin Wayland.
[1:24:14] >> Yes.
[1:24:15] >> John Ausen.
[1:24:16] >> Yes.
[1:24:17] >> Don Trueg.
[1:24:18] >> Yes.
[1:24:19] >> Robert Becker.
[1:24:19] >> Yes.
[1:24:20] >> Renee Lyon.
[1:24:21] >> Yes.
[1:24:21] >> John Schow.
[1:24:22] >> Yes.
[1:24:23] >> David Larson.
[1:24:24] >> Yes.
[1:24:26] >> Kristen Husby.
[1:24:27] >> Yes.
[1:24:27] >> Ron Johnson.
[1:24:28] >> Yes.
[1:24:28] >> Andy Parish.
[1:24:30] >> Yes.
[1:24:30] >> Ryker Todd.
[1:24:31] >> Yes.
[1:24:32] >> Larry Sieverson.
[1:24:33] >> Yes.
[1:24:33] >> Andy Todd.
[1:24:34] >> Yes.
[1:24:35] >> Richard Anderson.
[1:24:35] >> Yes.
[1:24:36] >> Scott Leonard.
[1:24:37] >> Yes.
[1:24:37] >> 16 to 0.
[1:24:39] >> All right, that passes 16 to 0.
[1:24:41] All right, we're going to go to number
[1:24:42] seven. Announcement appointments
[1:24:44] elections appoint meant to the Board of
[1:24:46] Adjustments alternate Kellen Nelson
[1:24:49] Osseo. If you could please read.
[1:24:52] Oh.
[1:24:54] Yeah.
[1:24:55] Um
[1:24:57] this is made to uh Rebecca Gluan
[1:24:59] administrator.
[1:25:00] Administrator Gluan as directed by David
[1:25:02] Larson chair of the environment and land
[1:25:04] use committee I am forwarding the
[1:25:05] following name for your consideration
[1:25:07] for an alternate board member
[1:25:08] appointment to the Trempealeau County
[1:25:10] Board of Adjustment, Kellen Nelson from
[1:25:12] Osseo.
[1:25:13] The person mentioned above has agreed to
[1:25:14] serve on the board and will replace
[1:25:16] Charlotte Everson's position which
[1:25:18] expired June 30th of 2026. It is our
[1:25:21] request that this appointment be made so
[1:25:23] that confirmation can be made no later
[1:25:24] than August 17th, 2026 County Board
[1:25:27] meeting.
[1:25:28] Should you have any questions or need
[1:25:29] further information, please do not
[1:25:31] hesitate to contact me. Sincerely, Mark
[1:25:33] Carlson zoning director.
[1:25:36] >> Move for a motion. Oh, I got a motion
[1:25:38] here from Ron Johnson any second?
[1:25:40] >> Second.
[1:25:41] >> Second by John Olson.
[1:25:43] Any discussion?
[1:25:46] Thoughts?
[1:25:47] Anything?
[1:25:49] All right.
[1:25:50] I guess we'll move forward and say all
[1:25:52] in favor for this
[1:25:54] appointment signify by saying I.
[1:25:57] >> I.
[1:25:58] >> All those opposed?
[1:25:59] Signify by saying no.
[1:26:03] All right, carried.
[1:26:07] Committee reports from all from exact
[1:26:09] finance committee Trempealeau County
[1:26:11] Government Center 2025 audit
[1:26:14] update.
[1:26:16] >> [laughter]
[1:26:19] >> I will move on that if you guys are okay
[1:26:21] with it. Um we discussed a little bit of
[1:26:23] this during the when Neil was up here
[1:26:25] speaking. Um
[1:26:26] there's a lot to the changeover when it
[1:26:28] comes to um
[1:26:30] uh from where we were at to the Tyler
[1:26:32] system
[1:26:34] um beginning for um closing out 2025 um
[1:26:37] with the Tyler system. Um the audit went
[1:26:40] um long, but we did make the timeline of
[1:26:43] July 2019, I believe it was, uh if I'm
[1:26:46] not mistaken. Um it was a long process,
[1:26:49] but we made it it we made it all happen
[1:26:51] amongst everybody here at Triple County.
[1:26:53] So, uh kudos to everybody here
[1:26:56] when it comes to the finance department,
[1:26:58] administration office, and everybody
[1:27:00] involved in trying to make that happen.
[1:27:02] Um so, um with that said, um
[1:27:05] besides what we've already talked about,
[1:27:07] like I said, with Neil here, I mean, I
[1:27:09] guess I'm open up to anybody who wants
[1:27:10] to say anything. I had some
[1:27:12] uh thing that I was going to read to
[1:27:14] you, but we already discussed it with
[1:27:15] Neil. So,
[1:27:16] uh um any questions when it comes to
[1:27:18] that? Um
[1:27:19] Donna, it looks like you are ready to
[1:27:21] talk.
[1:27:21] >> I Yeah, I always got questions, don't I?
[1:27:23] >> Go ahead.
[1:27:24] >> I I guess I'm not understanding why we
[1:27:26] don't have the audit report.
[1:27:29] >> Um we should you should everybody should
[1:27:31] have the audit report, right?
[1:27:33] >> audit report. Am I missing something?
[1:27:36] No.
[1:27:38] >> What Why isn't it in the packet?
[1:27:41] >> What was that? I'm sorry.
[1:27:42] >> Why isn't it in the packet?
[1:27:44] >> Um
[1:27:45] >> In fact, it's sort of a general
[1:27:46] frustration. We get handouts.
[1:27:48] Anything that gets presented here, to
[1:27:50] me, should be in the packet.
[1:27:53] Otherwise, it's a surprise.
[1:27:54] >> Mr. Chair.
[1:27:56] >> Yes.
[1:27:56] >> When are the auditors coming to do their
[1:27:58] final exit conference with the board?
[1:28:01] >> Um that's a good question. I believe um
[1:28:04] >> Because that's that's when
[1:28:06] the rest of the board usually gets the
[1:28:08] the financial. So, I mean,
[1:28:10] I Mary's got them, I know.
[1:28:12] >> Yeah, I think we're at September.
[1:28:13] >> finance got them, and we met with with
[1:28:16] Cheyenne.
[1:28:17] >> Right.
[1:28:18] >> But, then Cheyenne comes to county board
[1:28:20] and presents the the full audit.
[1:28:22] >> for all of it. It was just for exact
[1:28:23] finance.
[1:28:25] Oh, when it comes to the board packets?
[1:28:28] Okay.
[1:28:29] Yeah, so um
[1:28:32] Uh this is more of an idea of
[1:28:34] >> Even if it's electronic, we would still
[1:28:36] all get it in our packets. So, whenever
[1:28:39] Cheyenne comes to do the final
[1:28:42] exit
[1:28:43] >> Right.
[1:28:44] >> to the whole board.
[1:28:46] >> And I can definitely talk to Cheyenne.
[1:28:48] >> so
[1:28:48] >> Yeah, but why do we have to wait till
[1:28:50] the final final? Why can't we see it
[1:28:52] now?
[1:28:53] >> And actually, Mary does have it, then
[1:28:55] she could send it out to all of us.
[1:28:57] >> Well, if it appears on the agenda, I
[1:28:58] agree with Don. It should be in our
[1:29:00] packet.
[1:29:01] >> I I agree I agree with you.
[1:29:04] >> Yeah, I I guess that's what confused me.
[1:29:05] I didn't I saw that this was on the
[1:29:07] agenda, but we didn't have the audit
[1:29:09] provided to us, so that may led me to
[1:29:11] believe that we weren't having our
[1:29:13] typical
[1:29:14] um closeout audit.
[1:29:16] Otherwise, I guess I'm unsure why it's
[1:29:18] on the agenda other than maybe to give
[1:29:20] kudos to all of the people that put in
[1:29:22] the work to do it. Um but um as long as
[1:29:25] she is coming, do we know that that is
[1:29:27] still the plan?
[1:29:28] >> You know, I can reach out to Vanessa.
[1:29:31] I'm actually I've been going to have a
[1:29:32] meeting here with Vanessa's Vanessa and
[1:29:34] Cheyenne here um after September or
[1:29:38] September 1st range. That'll be talking
[1:29:40] to I'll discuss that with her.
[1:29:42] Absolutely.
[1:29:43] I'll bring it back.
[1:29:45] >> Mr. Chair.
[1:29:46] >> Yeah.
[1:29:46] >> Didn't she say that they said that they
[1:29:48] were had them here that they were going
[1:29:50] to come and give it to the whole board
[1:29:51] in September?
[1:29:52] >> they did tell us that.
[1:29:53] >> tell us that. So, they will be here.
[1:29:55] >> In September.
[1:29:55] >> Yeah, that's what I thought I heard, but
[1:29:57] I didn't want to
[1:29:57] >> They thought they'd have everything done
[1:29:59] totally by then.
[1:30:00] >> I didn't want to speak out of turn.
[1:30:01] >> things even in the they were still
[1:30:02] finishing up when we had our last
[1:30:05] >> They haven't done the single audit, I
[1:30:07] don't think it's complete.
[1:30:08] >> And Yeah, it everybody
[1:30:10] >> where we're at.
[1:30:10] >> That's what they said said, yeah.
[1:30:14] >> So, we'll bring it back in September.
[1:30:15] >> shouldn't get that.
[1:30:16] >> Yes.
[1:30:17] >> I would just say that
[1:30:18] >> Are we going to go back where we get our
[1:30:20] monthly report? I think it's 2 months in
[1:30:21] a row we haven't got a monthly report on
[1:30:24] financials.
[1:30:26] >> That's going to be some time.
[1:30:28] >> Pam did have
[1:30:29] >> Pam was working on that, too, and I
[1:30:31] thought she had a couple of months done
[1:30:32] already.
[1:30:33] >> She actually, yeah, she bought she gave
[1:30:35] the exact finance finally updated sheet
[1:30:38] of the finances cuz we said we don't
[1:30:40] want them every
[1:30:41] and she Pam did say she was finally got
[1:30:43] there after all of with that the whole
[1:30:46] Tyler fiasco. It's it's finally doing
[1:30:49] what it's supposed to do and she's So,
[1:30:51] she thinks she's almost there. They had
[1:30:53] a couple more things even the auditor
[1:30:55] said that. They had a
[1:30:56] tie up a couple loose ends and then they
[1:30:59] could start giving us the report.
[1:31:01] >> Yep, and there's a lot of entries
[1:31:02] >> quarterly or monthly.
[1:31:03] >> There's a lot of entries that need to be
[1:31:05] >> entered. Now that 2025 is closed out in
[1:31:08] the Tyler.
[1:31:09] So, like I said, there's a lot of things
[1:31:11] that were
[1:31:12] um
[1:31:13] a lot of things that were entered in the
[1:31:14] old system for 2026 that should have
[1:31:17] been entered in the new system of Tyler
[1:31:20] of 20 you know, our 2020 yeah, five new
[1:31:23] system for 2026. So, there's a lot of
[1:31:25] entries that have to happen. Yeah, go
[1:31:27] ahead, Mr.
[1:31:27] >> Has that
[1:31:28] Was this [clears throat] put online for
[1:31:30] the public to see yet?
[1:31:32] Okay, so I'm not voting on something the
[1:31:34] public never had a chance to weigh in
[1:31:35] on.
[1:31:36] >> There's no vote.
[1:31:39] >> There's no vote, just update.
[1:31:40] >> Yeah, there's just an update.
[1:31:43] >> No, no.
[1:31:43] >> No, it's just an update.
[1:31:44] >> But I I would suggest that Mary send it
[1:31:46] send it out since we do have it
[1:31:48] electronically. Just send it out to us
[1:31:50] so we can
[1:31:51] >> Yep, Mary said absolutely, it'll be
[1:31:52] done.
[1:31:53] >> of us I should say the rest of you
[1:31:55] because the exact finance already did
[1:31:57] get it, but
[1:31:58] uh the rest of the board gets it and has
[1:32:00] time to to go through and
[1:32:02] >> For our September meeting.
[1:32:03] >> lay questions.
[1:32:05] >> Go ahead, Pam.
[1:32:06] >> Yeah, and I I would just add what John
[1:32:08] said. I I think there's a good reason
[1:32:09] why we haven't gotten the monthly
[1:32:11] updates like we usually do because of
[1:32:13] all of the things. But I would also
[1:32:15] suggest that Pam probably doesn't even
[1:32:17] know that we used to get them because
[1:32:18] she's new and hasn't had that
[1:32:20] opportunity.
[1:32:20] >> She does know. She does know. And she
[1:32:22] had a really nice
[1:32:23] >> She showed me a couple of them last
[1:32:25] >> to the full board, not just
[1:32:26] >> Yes, right. It goes to the full board.
[1:32:28] >> Okay, perfect.
[1:32:30] >> 100%.
[1:32:31] >> If I could
[1:32:32] >> Yes, go ahead.
[1:32:32] >> Okay.
[1:32:33] I think I'd like to just touch on what
[1:32:36] Supervisor Trogue you had asked about
[1:32:39] previous on talking about the impact of
[1:32:44] a finance manager eventually a finance
[1:32:48] director that we talked about, right?
[1:32:50] And so these have been a lot of
[1:32:51] conversations at the exact finance
[1:32:54] committee, but not here at the full
[1:32:56] board. But I had brought forward data
[1:33:00] showing that our audit costs have been
[1:33:03] very high in 22
[1:33:06] 23 24 that I have records I've shared as
[1:33:10] well as in 25 26 going to is going to
[1:33:14] blow that out of the water because of
[1:33:16] all the cleanup, but um even previous we
[1:33:20] we don't have someone at that level. We
[1:33:24] didn't. We had a
[1:33:26] wonderful person overseeing our finances
[1:33:29] that kept everything in its place and
[1:33:31] organized, but we didn't have an audit a
[1:33:34] person that's an auditor.
[1:33:36] And so we will save a significant amount
[1:33:39] of money right off the bat because of
[1:33:41] having someone in that level here. Uh so
[1:33:44] the cost of a person of that caliber
[1:33:48] uh with that education and that
[1:33:50] experience will save. Besides that,
[1:33:53] there's just so much risk. Um this is
[1:33:56] not entirely because of
[1:33:59] of the uh of
[1:34:01] of Tyler. It is because we had a
[1:34:04] changeover in a lot of
[1:34:07] areas of um people that had a lot of
[1:34:09] experience. Our succession plan was to
[1:34:12] keep the financials in the clerk's
[1:34:14] office.
[1:34:15] It didn't that doesn't work and counties
[1:34:17] have moved away from that and I showed
[1:34:20] the data at the exact finance on that as
[1:34:23] well for that purpose in showing that's
[1:34:25] not a good plan. Um and and most
[1:34:30] counties um out of the 72, I believe
[1:34:34] there are only five that still have it
[1:34:36] in the clerk's office.
[1:34:37] Um and most counties have a finance
[1:34:40] director because you need someone to
[1:34:43] oversee your finances. We don't have
[1:34:46] someone in that caliber level
[1:34:49] uh other than Pam here that um would uh
[1:34:53] be able to do the all of what she's done
[1:34:55] right now. Baker Tilly is in agreement.
[1:34:58] They have shared that as well. That
[1:35:01] report is serious. We will have the
[1:35:04] state questioning us at this point
[1:35:06] because of the seriousness of that and I
[1:35:09] don't think that they shared that as
[1:35:11] much as what they should but that's a
[1:35:13] serious report.
[1:35:15] Um in the in the in the lack of
[1:35:18] oversight that we had over there. So, I
[1:35:21] just want you as a board to understand
[1:35:24] um the importance of uh our finances and
[1:35:27] making sure that they're is good solid
[1:35:30] and we talked to and I brought that
[1:35:32] forward in talking uh about businesses
[1:35:35] here within your own county that that
[1:35:37] agree in saying that you should have a
[1:35:40] finance director. So, as you go forward,
[1:35:43] I hope you considered uh
[1:35:44] con- continue to think of that and and
[1:35:48] it's for the better of your
[1:35:50] um county, your constituents and making
[1:35:52] sure that the finances are protected
[1:35:54] here.
[1:35:56] >> Mr. Chair, if I could comment.
[1:35:58] >> Um, go ahead.
[1:35:59] >> Um,
[1:35:59] >> We got to keep it try to keep it to the
[1:36:01] audit because that's what's on this
[1:36:02] >> Okay, well, it's about the audit.
[1:36:04] >> We uh, we got to keep it to the audit
[1:36:05] because that's what's on the
[1:36:06] >> actually about the audits evaluation of
[1:36:09] our financial status. So, I think it's
[1:36:11] related and it basically is
[1:36:13] Um, when we did budgets last year, there
[1:36:16] was a lot of discussion about financial
[1:36:18] manager, financial director. Um,
[1:36:22] and I think the decision was made to go
[1:36:24] with the financial manager
[1:36:26] for financial, you know, budgetary
[1:36:28] reasons.
[1:36:29] And and and I've I remember hearing a
[1:36:31] few people say that that maybe we need
[1:36:34] the director next year, that we look at
[1:36:36] the director next year. So, that's
[1:36:40] it's my understanding that this was to
[1:36:41] be a
[1:36:42] a natural progression and this was based
[1:36:44] on the audit report that was submitted
[1:36:46] last year to and discussed at length.
[1:36:48] And that's all I have to say.
[1:36:49] >> Thank you.
[1:36:50] >> Yeah, we got to try to stick it to the
[1:36:51] audit update, please.
[1:36:52] >> Okay, thank you.
[1:36:53] >> Go ahead.
[1:36:53] >> And I believe mine is related as well,
[1:36:55] but I think also bringing consistency to
[1:36:58] all the departments
[1:37:00] may have caused some of the troubles
[1:37:01] with the audit as well because as we're
[1:37:03] building consistency throughout the
[1:37:05] county government center, um,
[1:37:08] we'll see some of that improve as well.
[1:37:09] Is that a fair statement?
[1:37:11] >> I think we're going to see a lot of that
[1:37:13] improve as the all the departments
[1:37:15] understand and learn how Tyler works.
[1:37:17] And
[1:37:17] >> Not even Tyler. I mean, just general
[1:37:19] practice.
[1:37:20] >> Right. Yeah, but it's all about the idea
[1:37:22] of being put into Tyler. And you know,
[1:37:24] we have a really we have
[1:37:26] I want to stress this stress this like
[1:37:29] big time. Um, we have a great we do have
[1:37:32] great finance people here. And when it
[1:37:34] comes to that, Stacy was has been
[1:37:36] awesome. She's been here 29 years. So, I
[1:37:38] I don't want to take from that because,
[1:37:41] um, when it comes to
[1:37:43] a financial director, Pam for or you
[1:37:45] know, we're putting names out here. Um
[1:37:48] you know, we don't know. We Nobody
[1:37:50] knows, you know, to your question
[1:37:52] earlier, but if if if Pam wasn't here,
[1:37:55] could of this happened? We don't know,
[1:37:56] because we didn't try Stacy. You know
[1:37:58] what I'm saying? So, I don't want to try
[1:38:00] to
[1:38:01] try to make
[1:38:02] answer questions on a situation where we
[1:38:05] don't know until we try, kind of a
[1:38:08] thing. So, I mean, we have a lot of good
[1:38:10] people here. We got to give them credit
[1:38:12] moving forward. And um
[1:38:15] go go that direction. That is where I
[1:38:17] stand.
[1:38:18] So, hopefully um Don, that answers a
[1:38:21] little bit of your question of
[1:38:23] of why or
[1:38:24] when it comes to moving forward of if it
[1:38:27] wasn't for her, could we be here?
[1:38:29] When you ask that.
[1:38:31] >> Uh
[1:38:31] >> It's kind of how I understood it.
[1:38:33] >> Sort of.
[1:38:33] >> Okay.
[1:38:34] >> I I just one more comment and I'll be
[1:38:35] done.
[1:38:36] I I just think it's important to note
[1:38:37] that this is not the first year that
[1:38:38] we've had an audit that calls into
[1:38:40] question finance uh practices. So, while
[1:38:44] I don't want to put anyone under the
[1:38:46] bus, like that is certainly not my
[1:38:48] intention. I know everyone works really
[1:38:49] hard and does the best that they can
[1:38:51] within the knowledge that they have. And
[1:38:53] that's
[1:38:54] kudos [clears throat] to everyone.
[1:38:55] But, this is not the first audit. In
[1:38:57] fact, it's probably
[1:38:59] as long as I've been here, we've been
[1:39:01] getting audits that have had concern
[1:39:04] about a variety of different things.
[1:39:07] So, we can't underscore enough
[1:39:10] the importance of that recommendation
[1:39:13] and those reports that have been
[1:39:14] provided to us in previous years,
[1:39:16] either. So, we may not be able to
[1:39:19] say what could have happened, but we
[1:39:22] have an experience of what has been
[1:39:24] happening that I think has resulted in a
[1:39:27] cumulative result here.
[1:39:30] >> Yeah, I believe our audits, if I'm not
[1:39:31] mistaken, Paul would
[1:39:33] you could maybe help me with this one a
[1:39:34] little bit when it comes to our audits.
[1:39:36] We have a process that's a little
[1:39:38] different here than other counties, and
[1:39:40] that's why it does cost us a little
[1:39:42] more. We're talking a little bit about
[1:39:43] there was a something I wish I could top
[1:39:45] of my head think of what it was um that
[1:39:48] I know um Vanessa brought up that there
[1:39:51] was an addition that we
[1:39:52] why we had to spend a little more money
[1:39:54] on audits because of some process we
[1:39:56] have or something.
[1:39:58] >> Most of most of the audit if you went
[1:40:00] back and looked at the audits, what
[1:40:02] actually was the audit expense,
[1:40:05] they weren't the 169 or the whatever.
[1:40:09] >> Yeah, from last year.
[1:40:09] >> It's all that extra help that the
[1:40:12] auditors gave. You know,
[1:40:15] they came down and did little seminars
[1:40:17] for different departments and stuff like
[1:40:19] that. They actually did our actual
[1:40:21] schedule A
[1:40:23] uh report that's due in May to the
[1:40:25] state.
[1:40:27] They actually do that. One thing that I
[1:40:29] always had them do also was that we
[1:40:32] would give them the budget and then they
[1:40:34] would um formulate or develop, create
[1:40:38] the report that goes into the paper to
[1:40:40] be published.
[1:40:41] Now, Pam says she
[1:40:43] did that wherever she was. So, maybe
[1:40:45] that's one thing that uh
[1:40:47] will be take
[1:40:49] come back to the county or whatever.
[1:40:51] But, a lot of the extra stuff was extra
[1:40:54] help that they did. And I mean, they did
[1:40:57] a lot especially in this last year.
[1:40:59] >> Yeah, this year.
[1:41:00] >> They did a lot.
[1:41:03] >> Go ahead.
[1:41:03] >> And wasn't it that they weren't coding
[1:41:06] it right as well in in 2025?
[1:41:09] Uh that's why we ran into the the
[1:41:12] problems with 2025 because the
[1:41:14] department heads uh didn't get their
[1:41:17] budgets in on time or they were
[1:41:19] incorrect or something like that. Wasn't
[1:41:21] there
[1:41:22] >> No.
[1:41:22] >> There were questions about that and
[1:41:24] >> I was going to say a lot of the entries
[1:41:26] that that um
[1:41:28] Baker Tilly is having to do is that
[1:41:31] um
[1:41:32] I'm going to use one example anyway. I
[1:41:34] know this would would big.
[1:41:36] Um money that came in in January or
[1:41:38] February that was a revenue for the last
[1:41:43] for 2025.
[1:41:45] That money was put into a
[1:41:49] an account that actually wasn't there
[1:41:51] anymore when Tyler came in. So, all of
[1:41:54] that things those were sitting out there
[1:41:57] in limbo with some place. So, they got a
[1:41:59] lot of entries of money that came into
[1:42:01] the county
[1:42:03] that was for the last year
[1:42:05] and it didn't get accounted in Tyler.
[1:42:08] That was a big thing right there.
[1:42:10] >> Oh, is that what
[1:42:10] >> Well, I'm sorry Scott, but I didn't
[1:42:12] answer your question.
[1:42:14] >> [laughter]
[1:42:14] >> No, that wasn't
[1:42:15] >> Yes, but that I was trying to get at.
[1:42:17] >> Yes, yes. And and I'm sure there was the
[1:42:20] same thing with some some batches of
[1:42:22] checks that were written that probably
[1:42:23] [clears throat] were
[1:42:25] accounts payable, so it was supposed to
[1:42:27] go back to last year.
[1:42:29] That kind of went out in that limbo,
[1:42:31] also.
[1:42:33] And so, the auditors
[1:42:35] found all that and now you said it was
[1:42:37] 3,600 entries that they've got to get
[1:42:41] for 2020 into Tyler
[1:42:43] >> for 2026.
[1:42:45] >> for 25.
[1:42:46] >> Mr. Chairman, uh, would it
[1:42:48] be helpful, I I'm just asking,
[1:42:51] like, what I heard from the audit report
[1:42:54] was that we spent $169,000
[1:42:57] or something like that and that was way
[1:42:59] out of whack.
[1:43:00] Um, and that Tyler full implementation
[1:43:04] would recoup most of that and get us
[1:43:07] back into a normal
[1:43:09] um, expense. So, so, is there some
[1:43:14] communication,
[1:43:15] newsletter article, letter from the
[1:43:18] board
[1:43:20] to say how important it is to really,
[1:43:22] uh, dig in and understand and use Tyler
[1:43:25] to its fullest extent cuz it's going to
[1:43:27] save the county money?
[1:43:30] >> Yeah, I think that's the direction we
[1:43:31] want to go when it comes to not
[1:43:33] necessarily a letter, but just to get it
[1:43:34] done so we can Pam's working hard on
[1:43:36] that right now just to get everything
[1:43:38] put in like it should be put in and
[1:43:40] everything set up. Like I said, she had
[1:43:41] to put down the system today to so we
[1:43:44] can start on 2026 and now move forward
[1:43:47] and next month she has to take down the
[1:43:49] system again
[1:43:50] to do some other
[1:43:52] things that she has to change up with
[1:43:53] Tyler that cuz that wasn't set up
[1:43:55] correctly. So she's going to do that
[1:43:56] again. So when it comes to cash and
[1:43:59] things like that, so she direction we
[1:44:01] need to go. We just need to get there.
[1:44:03] >> I'm just wondering if we can help
[1:44:06] with a little push.
[1:44:08] Maybe everybody widely understands this,
[1:44:11] but you know, if you put it into real
[1:44:12] dollars, hey, we're at 170k we could get
[1:44:15] it down to 25k or whatever it was. That
[1:44:18] that could have an impact.
[1:44:20] >> That would be nice to get down that far.
[1:44:21] I don't quite think we're going to get
[1:44:22] it that far, but you know
[1:44:23] >> [laughter]
[1:44:29] >> I would also
[1:44:30] >> Go ahead.
[1:44:31] >> we should check cuz I don't remember
[1:44:32] anymore.
[1:44:33] We were on a five-year contract with
[1:44:36] Baker Tilly. I don't know what year
[1:44:37] we're in right now.
[1:44:40] If it's like three or four or or if it's
[1:44:43] the fifth.
[1:44:45] Because if if you find that anyway, it
[1:44:47] should be in Mary's office someplace.
[1:44:51] Yeah, it was right in it was right in my
[1:44:53] drawer right here. Okay, but anyway,
[1:44:56] that had the contract said how much the
[1:44:58] audit was for each year cuz they they
[1:45:00] bid it. It was bid out and so they had
[1:45:03] the the dollar figure and I
[1:45:07] I don't remember what year we're in.
[1:45:09] I don't. I'm sorry.
[1:45:12] >> All right, I think we beat this up
[1:45:13] enough. I think we'll move on to
[1:45:15] community reports
[1:45:17] discussion, possible action on the
[1:45:19] statement of
[1:45:20] economic interest.
[1:45:23] And I believe that goes to
[1:45:25] >> Season Fisher.
[1:45:26] >> It does go to me. I want to share my
[1:45:28] screen and I apologize ahead of time if
[1:45:30] you
[1:45:32] I will try not to make you motion sick,
[1:45:33] but I want to share something with you
[1:45:36] so you can understand
[1:45:38] um
[1:45:40] parts of of our ordinance.
[1:45:51] >> May I ask a question? I
[1:45:53] I don't know if this matters or not, but
[1:45:55] in the agenda it says discussion
[1:45:57] possible action on statement of economic
[1:46:00] interest.
[1:46:02] And I think what we're talking about
[1:46:04] right now is
[1:46:06] statement of uh
[1:46:09] Is it really economic interest or is it
[1:46:11] conflict of interest?
[1:46:12] >> It's really both. So, if I can talk
[1:46:15] about both of them in one, I have a
[1:46:17] presentation that's and I'll try to keep
[1:46:19] it short. I know we're at the near end
[1:46:21] of it.
[1:46:22] But, you have two forms in front of you
[1:46:24] and they are both public records. One is
[1:46:28] the draft uh complaint form. One is uh
[1:46:33] conflict of interest and statement of
[1:46:34] economic interest and financial
[1:46:37] disclosure.
[1:46:38] And so, there's two forms.
[1:46:41] And before we get too far, I want to
[1:46:43] take want you to take a look
[1:46:46] at the ordinance that I have up. And I'm
[1:46:49] going to go down and I apologize if this
[1:46:51] takes me a second because I'm have a
[1:46:53] couple different screens in front of me,
[1:46:55] but you can see where it is. This is
[1:46:57] 2.058
[1:46:59] and I will come back to this in just a
[1:47:02] second.
[1:47:03] But, there's a provision in here that is
[1:47:06] something that we need to deal with.
[1:47:08] Uh
[1:47:09] And I will again circle back.
[1:47:13] But,
[1:47:14] if you take a look at number five where
[1:47:16] it says review and update county board
[1:47:18] rules during the odd numbered years
[1:47:20] prior to
[1:47:21] uh elections, that means that we can't
[1:47:23] have any discussions about any of these
[1:47:26] things
[1:47:27] unless we essentially suspend those
[1:47:30] those rules and so forth.
[1:47:32] And I don't think that's great. I'm
[1:47:35] going to be pretty
[1:47:36] frank about that and I'm going to put it
[1:47:38] um circle back to it. But this is what
[1:47:41] our ordinance is. This has been there
[1:47:42] for a while.
[1:47:44] I checked in with
[1:47:46] both a prior corporation counsel as well
[1:47:48] as attorney Phillips. There's not a
[1:47:50] legal reason. This was a policy reason
[1:47:52] years ago.
[1:47:53] Um and so I'd like to get back to this
[1:47:56] discussion that we had in November.
[1:47:59] We are going to need to suspend that.
[1:48:02] So
[1:48:03] um
[1:48:04] And I also before I get to this, I sent
[1:48:07] you guys the donations policy. I found
[1:48:10] that. I sent it out. Uh that was from
[1:48:13] 2019, but we need to update it. 2019
[1:48:15] doesn't sound like that long ago,
[1:48:17] but it is something that is old enough
[1:48:21] that we need to we need to address it.
[1:48:23] Plus as I discussed last year,
[1:48:26] there's some process issues with it.
[1:48:29] So with that, I'm going to start from
[1:48:33] this and if I have to do it from
[1:48:35] um
[1:48:39] Oh, there we go.
[1:48:41] Okay.
[1:48:42] So
[1:48:43] last November we talked about the
[1:48:45] conflict of interests, which that's when
[1:48:47] we went through the code of conduct.
[1:48:49] That's when we did that ethics form.
[1:48:51] Before that, we had nothing.
[1:48:55] And so we need to start talking about
[1:48:56] next steps here. We need to dig into
[1:48:59] several parts to this. I also shared the
[1:49:02] email
[1:49:04] recommendation that we start getting
[1:49:05] into our model board rules. I I really
[1:49:09] what I mean to say is the Wisconsin
[1:49:10] Counties Association's model board rules
[1:49:12] and we update our own rules
[1:49:15] with that. And it
[1:49:17] goes back to that 2.05 that we need to
[1:49:19] we'll need to look at that again.
[1:49:22] Um
[1:49:23] the donations policy came up
[1:49:25] frequently. I've talked about this
[1:49:28] to multiple individuals as well as
[1:49:30] committees. We need to update our
[1:49:31] ordinance.
[1:49:33] And so with
[1:49:35] today, I'm going to ask that we adopt
[1:49:37] some form of what's in front of you and
[1:49:40] that we suspend that 2.05
[1:49:44] section that I just shared with you.
[1:49:47] Um I already discussed this. This was
[1:49:49] something we started in November.
[1:49:51] This was actually something that I
[1:49:53] expressly discussed at exact finance in
[1:49:55] November. However, we need to we need to
[1:49:58] bring it back and keep working on it.
[1:50:00] All right, what laws apply? There are a
[1:50:02] whole bunch. There is Wisconsin statute
[1:50:04] 1959 that was expressly incorporated
[1:50:07] into our
[1:50:08] code of ethics as well. Uh the following
[1:50:11] public records open meetings law were
[1:50:13] also incorporated. Uh and
[1:50:16] depending on the issue, it's possible
[1:50:19] that uh
[1:50:21] chapter 946 subject subchapter two could
[1:50:25] apply. That is part of the criminal
[1:50:27] code.
[1:50:28] Uh
[1:50:29] that's not through us
[1:50:31] as for the county board, but that is
[1:50:33] still possible.
[1:50:35] Uh I've already mentioned this. We
[1:50:37] adopted our
[1:50:39] code of conduct which is specific to you
[1:50:42] as the county board and assist the
[1:50:45] members and other members of committees
[1:50:47] as well as our code of ethics which is
[1:50:50] 2.07.
[1:50:51] And that
[1:50:52] entails staff supervisors and other
[1:50:55] elected officials accepting those that
[1:50:57] are state.
[1:50:58] Uh
[1:51:00] and just as an aside since I mentioned
[1:51:03] public records, uh this is just a
[1:51:04] friendly reminder. Please continue to
[1:51:07] use all of your
[1:51:08] county email accounts. Uh
[1:51:12] within the public records law, there's a
[1:51:15] broad definition of record. Lots of
[1:51:17] things can be records. We go through
[1:51:19] this every day.
[1:51:21] What is a record? What's not a record?
[1:51:23] Emails are records.
[1:51:25] And it is your responsibility as county
[1:51:27] board of supervisors to maintain records
[1:51:30] of what you do. So, this is just a easy
[1:51:33] way to make sure that it is kept
[1:51:34] maintained for you and you don't have to
[1:51:37] work so hard should you get a records
[1:51:38] request.
[1:51:40] Um
[1:51:41] as I had just discussed, there are
[1:51:43] multiple laws. Sometimes one law
[1:51:46] applies, sometimes multiple apply,
[1:51:47] sometimes
[1:51:49] I
[1:51:50] it depends on who it is. You know, I'm
[1:51:54] an attorney. I am also subject to my own
[1:51:56] professional guide guidelines.
[1:51:59] I
[1:52:00] that goes across the county. Social
[1:52:02] workers have their own. I other
[1:52:05] professional organizations have their
[1:52:06] own.
[1:52:07] I you are also subject to the county
[1:52:09] board rules, which expressly is 2.02.
[1:52:13] Uh although it it entails 2.04 as well
[1:52:16] as 2.07.
[1:52:18] So, I discussed that or mentioned the
[1:52:21] conflict of interest form. It's in front
[1:52:23] of you. It's also over the next couple
[1:52:27] of
[1:52:28] >> [clears throat]
[1:52:28] >> uh couple of slides as well.
[1:52:31] This form
[1:52:33] is something that I'm going to ask that
[1:52:36] it is done annually.
[1:52:39] I'm also going to eventually ask that we
[1:52:40] update our ordinance to better address
[1:52:43] it. Although it's it's arguably part of
[1:52:45] our ordinance, but it's not expressly
[1:52:47] part of our ordinance.
[1:52:49] I this is something that's commonly done
[1:52:51] across the state.
[1:52:53] Uh lots lots of counties who have ethics
[1:52:56] code, and as we talked about it last
[1:52:57] year, we were one of the latter ones
[1:53:00] that didn't have a ethics code. Um but
[1:53:03] this is again, this is very very common.
[1:53:06] I
[1:53:11] The reason why we need to do it is is
[1:53:14] is right in there. It's in the form
[1:53:16] itself. I this form, while you we're
[1:53:18] talking about it now, I also wanted to
[1:53:20] give you enough that should you look at
[1:53:22] it next January, you have something to
[1:53:24] go with. Um of course, you can always
[1:53:26] ask us questions, but the reason is
[1:53:29] because
[1:53:30] we need to identify actual conflicts of
[1:53:33] interest, what might be potential
[1:53:35] conflicts of interest, and then if
[1:53:37] there's something else that's out there,
[1:53:39] we need to figure out what it is and how
[1:53:41] to prevent it. I and
[1:53:44] and so it's just that vetting formula.
[1:53:47] And it's going to depend on the person
[1:53:49] that actually discloses the form.
[1:53:51] I there are two parts of this form.
[1:53:53] There's a brief explanation. You know,
[1:53:55] we talk about what is a conflict of
[1:53:57] interest.
[1:53:58] I there's some examples of what is
[1:54:00] acceptable, what's not acceptable.
[1:54:03] This form is required to be completed to
[1:54:05] the best of your knowledge. Department
[1:54:07] heads would also be part of this. Just
[1:54:08] to be clear, I'm going to be completing
[1:54:10] this as well.
[1:54:12] I it is I to go to corporation council's
[1:54:15] office. It does not ask for any
[1:54:17] confidential information. I do not want
[1:54:19] it.
[1:54:20] I want a truthful and accurate
[1:54:22] statement, but I do not want to count
[1:54:23] numbers or anything like that.
[1:54:26] Like any document, I cannot guarantee
[1:54:28] where the form will go after I receive
[1:54:30] it.
[1:54:32] I the second part is actual statement.
[1:54:36] For this, if the board chooses to adopt
[1:54:38] it, it requires that this form is
[1:54:40] completed by all members of this body as
[1:54:43] well as department heads I by September
[1:54:45] 30th. Afterwards, it'd be no later than
[1:54:48] January 30th of every year.
[1:54:50] I and there's a provision regarding
[1:54:52] elected
[1:54:53] I officials too or those who are going
[1:54:55] through elections.
[1:54:57] I tells you where it goes to. Goes to
[1:54:59] our office.
[1:55:01] I it does expressly require that anybody
[1:55:04] who's completing this form reads the
[1:55:06] code of conduct, reads the code of
[1:55:08] ethics as well as Wisconsin statute 1959
[1:55:11] to make sure or to better ensure that
[1:55:14] somebody is understanding the form.
[1:55:16] I if you have questions, always you can
[1:55:19] ask. I this is something to be completed
[1:55:22] to the best of your knowledge as I
[1:55:23] already stated and if there's a change
[1:55:25] during the reporting period and that
[1:55:27] happens, that's life. Just because
[1:55:29] something there is a conflict doesn't
[1:55:31] mean there's a criminal uh response to
[1:55:33] it or a criminal effect. I but if
[1:55:36] there's a change
[1:55:37] you're required to update the form and
[1:55:39] provide it to corporation counsel.
[1:55:42] I and so the questions are there,
[1:55:44] they're fairly straightforward.
[1:55:46] They reflect back at I
[1:55:49] our ordinance.
[1:55:50] Um
[1:55:52] I'm not sure if there are any questions
[1:55:53] there regarding that and I jumped ahead,
[1:55:56] so I I apologize, but if there
[1:56:00] I think there's a a question by
[1:56:01] supervisor Parish.
[1:56:05] >> So tonight we tried to move the DA's
[1:56:07] office to the executive finance
[1:56:09] committee and all of a sudden we've
[1:56:10] grown an ethical conscience
[1:56:13] to fill out a disclosure form
[1:56:16] and
[1:56:17] we're going to open up complaint forms
[1:56:19] with no thought at all to it. Like
[1:56:21] what's the blackout period for
[1:56:22] elections? I mean
[1:56:24] I'm just can we just table this for a
[1:56:25] month so we can try to figure out what's
[1:56:27] not being told to us right now?
[1:56:30] >> So I appreciate the comment. It's fairly
[1:56:33] straightforward. You would find this
[1:56:34] across the state.
[1:56:36] I
[1:56:37] >> But I haven't. It's first time we have
[1:56:38] it.
[1:56:39] >> First time we have it, but
[1:56:40] [clears throat] I can tell you the
[1:56:41] county that I came from, we had it.
[1:56:44] We had to do it every year.
[1:56:46] >> I'll just May I
[1:56:48] >> Yeah.
[1:56:48] >> Um have worked in health care my entire
[1:56:51] career
[1:56:52] um and in leadership roles and have been
[1:56:55] asked to fill out a
[1:56:57] a conflict of interest form for all of
[1:57:00] that time.
[1:57:01] And I always report a potential conflict
[1:57:05] of interest just by virtue of being
[1:57:14] >> I'm reviewing that.
[1:57:16] I going to
[1:57:20] the next form.
[1:57:23] Oh, um I do want to I do want to put
[1:57:25] this out there and I I think this is
[1:57:26] important. If you think someone has a
[1:57:29] conflict or you have a conflict, don't
[1:57:30] assume that it's an actual conflict. Ask
[1:57:33] questions, get the information, realize
[1:57:35] that there's a difference between a
[1:57:37] potential conflict where there might be
[1:57:38] things to do which I will talk about in
[1:57:40] a moment. I and an actual conflict. Just
[1:57:44] essentially learn I more about what's
[1:57:46] going on. So, what can you do? The first
[1:57:48] thing you can do and I think it was
[1:57:50] already mentioned is abstain.
[1:57:52] I if you think that there's a conflict,
[1:57:54] if you know there's a conflict, uh
[1:57:57] abstention is available, which is a
[1:57:58] formal choice not to cast a vote on a
[1:58:00] conflictual issue or refrain from
[1:58:02] otherwise acting.
[1:58:04] Uh this is a discretionary the reasoning
[1:58:06] behind behind your abstention is
[1:58:08] discretionary.
[1:58:10] I
[1:58:11] you are um not required to explain it.
[1:58:14] Uh you might be asked that question,
[1:58:16] you're not required to provide an
[1:58:17] answer. You can just abstain. Just
[1:58:19] simply as that. What I do recommend I
[1:58:22] and there's a little bit of I
[1:58:24] will recommend one versus the other. Do
[1:58:27] not participate though.
[1:58:28] Uh formally abstain from it and I this
[1:58:30] is where there's the biggest probably
[1:58:32] variance between some attorneys. Leave
[1:58:34] the room. Just so it's really clear you
[1:58:36] have left the room.
[1:58:37] I when the applicable agenda item is
[1:58:40] called. I also note there is a specific
[1:58:44] provision under 1959 that allows
[1:58:47] officials and staff to ask for ethics
[1:58:49] opinions. Uh the requester the identity
[1:58:53] of that requestor is confidential. That
[1:58:55] is one of the few exceptions to the
[1:58:57] public records law. And so if there's a
[1:58:59] need for an ethics opinion, there is
[1:59:01] also another way to obtain that.
[1:59:04] Uh the request does need to be in
[1:59:05] writing.
[1:59:08] Um
[1:59:09] there is a complaint process. This came
[1:59:11] up uh
[1:59:12] and I think it's already been discussed.
[1:59:14] I came up after the exact finance
[1:59:17] committee meeting earlier this month.
[1:59:19] There was a request for one, so uh this
[1:59:22] complaint form was drafted because that
[1:59:24] request came up.
[1:59:26] Uh
[1:59:27] it is specific to our ordinance. It's
[1:59:28] not specific to any other process within
[1:59:32] uh the county. It is just to 2.07.
[1:59:36] Uh
[1:59:37] you can include complaints under the
[1:59:38] code of conduct as well as chapter 19.
[1:59:42] It does require a written complaint. It
[1:59:44] needs to be signed. It needs to be
[1:59:46] signed by somebody with first-hand
[1:59:48] knowledge of whatever the alleged
[1:59:49] conduct is uh with sufficient detail.
[1:59:52] And again, first-hand knowledge means
[1:59:54] you were the witness to it.
[1:59:56] >> Is this
[1:59:57] Sorry.
[1:59:58] If I may.
[1:59:58] >> Go ahead.
[1:59:59] >> Is this for employees only or is it for
[2:00:01] if somebody is receiving a county
[2:00:03] service as a citizen, they could file a
[2:00:06] complaint through this form also?
[2:00:08] >> So that's a good question. It's a very
[2:00:10] good question. So this is for uh
[2:00:13] an ethics complaint.
[2:00:14] So if there is a complaint, that's going
[2:00:16] to involve employees. So it could be an
[2:00:18] employee. It also could be a supervisor.
[2:00:20] It could be a citizen member or so
[2:00:22] forth.
[2:00:22] >> Okay.
[2:00:23] >> So
[2:00:25] not a general complaint. It's not an HR
[2:00:27] complaint. It's not a customer service
[2:00:28] complaint. Uh it is specific to 2.07.
[2:00:33] >> Oh.
[2:00:36] >> And I would
[2:00:38] also recommend to looking at 2.07
[2:00:41] because this procedure is all the way
[2:00:42] through there. This is something that we
[2:00:44] discussed last November. Again, it's
[2:00:46] just something that we're following up
[2:00:48] on.
[2:00:49] I
[2:00:50] so that everybody is aware,
[2:00:52] as I mentioned, there's a procedural
[2:00:55] I provision within 2.07 where it goes to
[2:00:59] I a copy does go to the person who is
[2:01:01] accused. And the burden of proof is on
[2:01:03] the complainant.
[2:01:05] And that's all consistent with our
[2:01:06] ordinance. That was what was voted on
[2:01:09] >> [clears throat]
[2:01:09] >> last year.
[2:01:10] I there is a general complaint form in
[2:01:13] front of you.
[2:01:14] I the only significant difference is
[2:01:17] that it says it's signed and sworn.
[2:01:20] And our particular ordinance does not
[2:01:21] require the swearing. And that is up to
[2:01:23] you whether you want that in there or
[2:01:26] not.
[2:01:27] I but it still requires the signature.
[2:01:33] >> I think the question bears asking for
[2:01:35] everybody. Uh there's questions about
[2:01:37] the ethics board.
[2:01:39] What who is that? Who's the chair? Where
[2:01:42] does that meet?
[2:01:43] >> Mhm. That's a good question. So, last
[2:01:46] year when we went through it, and I'll
[2:01:47] see if [clears throat] I can find it,
[2:01:49] it's in 2.07. That ethics board is the
[2:01:51] exact finance board.
[2:01:53] So, I that was the decision at the time.
[2:01:56] You know,
[2:01:57] down the line if you guys want to change
[2:01:59] that, you can.
[2:02:00] Uh there's also a provision if there is
[2:02:02] a conflict within the ethics board.
[2:02:17] >> Maybe to clarify for everyone too, the
[2:02:19] ethics committee, so as part of the
[2:02:21] exact finance committee, but they don't
[2:02:23] meet unless there is a complaint.
[2:02:25] >> That's that's correct. This would be a
[2:02:27] specific process and so forth.
[2:02:29] >> it's just a little misleading when we
[2:02:31] say we have a committee. We do, but they
[2:02:33] don't meet with any regularity.
[2:02:35] >> Right.
[2:02:36] Right. And to clarify, and maybe to more
[2:02:38] fully answer your question, it would not
[2:02:40] meet until there was a complaint
[2:02:42] received.
[2:02:44] >> Question.
[2:02:44] >> Yes.
[2:02:46] >> So, would corporation counsel be a part
[2:02:48] of that
[2:02:49] group as well?
[2:02:51] >> Under the current ordinance, excepting
[2:02:53] if there's any conflict of interest in
[2:02:56] there, I we are required to provide
[2:02:59] legal advice to the ethics board.
[2:03:01] >> Yeah, I I would think it would be
[2:03:02] important for corporation counsel to be
[2:03:05] a very active member of that group.
[2:03:06] Thank you.
[2:03:07] >> And I can clip I can switch to that
[2:03:09] [clears throat] screen if you want.
[2:03:15] >> Go ahead, Andy.
[2:03:15] >> How far back do these complaints go? I I
[2:03:17] stole a kid's milk in kindergarten. Is
[2:03:19] that going to come up or
[2:03:20] >> Oh, that's a fair question, too. And I'm
[2:03:23] going through it. So, here's the ethics
[2:03:24] code. And it's you know, it's something
[2:03:27] we talked about uh in April, but it's
[2:03:29] something that's easy to be forgotten,
[2:03:31] too. I This has not been the first
[2:03:33] discussion, but it's not a This is
[2:03:36] it's not a a pretty discussion.
[2:03:38] I So, if we go through, you know, is
[2:03:41] there a lot of definitions in here?
[2:03:42] That's what I'm I'm I'm going through
[2:03:44] very slowly here.
[2:03:46] Uh there's a number of things that we
[2:03:48] discussed about uh conflicts of interest
[2:03:50] that we've articulated. I We also talk
[2:03:54] about the disclosure of comfort uh
[2:03:55] confidential information. The donations
[2:03:57] policy is in there, but we do need to
[2:04:00] update it. Um
[2:04:02] I There's some political activities in
[2:04:04] there, statutes incorporated by
[2:04:06] reference.
[2:04:07] I We talked about the advisory opinion.
[2:04:10] Here's the ethics board. Uh there's the
[2:04:13] discussion on the creation of and scope,
[2:04:16] the composition and term.
[2:04:19] I There's the the discussion about um
[2:04:23] the conflicts that I just mentioned.
[2:04:25] See.
[2:04:34] And then there's the complaint process.
[2:04:36] And I just as I stated, all complaints
[2:04:39] need to be in writing. The complaint
[2:04:41] needs to provide sufficient detail
[2:04:43] detail.
[2:04:44] I need to provide the contact
[2:04:45] information, address,
[2:04:48] the specific provision of what is being
[2:04:50] violated, the actual facts.
[2:04:53] I must be signed and dated. As I said,
[2:04:55] that's a little different in here. We
[2:04:57] can change it if you want. I'm This is a
[2:04:59] form that can be changed. Um
[2:05:03] It does have a provision that if you
[2:05:05] omit something that is required, that it
[2:05:07] can be complete it can be dismissed
[2:05:09] without prejudice, which means it can be
[2:05:11] brought back again. This is where I
[2:05:14] believe Supervisor Parish's question is,
[2:05:16] time limitations. No action may be taken
[2:05:18] under this section on any complaint
[2:05:20] filed more than 1 year after the alleged
[2:05:22] violation occurred. So,
[2:05:24] it goes back 1 year.
[2:05:30] And then, if you keep going through
[2:05:32] here, and I don't know how much we want
[2:05:34] to cuz it's getting late. There are
[2:05:35] other provisions and ways that it goes
[2:05:37] through.
[2:05:38] So,
[2:05:39] I would ask that I
[2:05:43] as I started off, that there you know, I
[2:05:45] believe actually it's already happened,
[2:05:46] Supervisor Wayland suspended it. I would
[2:05:49] ask that these two be adopted. I we can
[2:05:53] certainly work on chapter two. That's
[2:05:55] fine. I think we need to work on chapter
[2:05:57] two. But, I do think we need to start
[2:06:00] doing this.
[2:06:01] >> I'd like to move to approve the conflict
[2:06:03] of interest and statement of economic
[2:06:06] and financial disclosure process, as
[2:06:08] well as the complaint ethics complaint
[2:06:10] process as presented by Corporation
[2:06:12] Counsel.
[2:06:13] >> I'll second that motion.
[2:06:14] >> All right, we have a first
[2:06:16] >> by Truax, first by Truax, second by Mr.
[2:06:18] Wayland.
[2:06:20] >> Any other discussion?
[2:06:23] Go ahead.
[2:06:24] >> Susan, who's the appeals committee
[2:06:25] appointed by? If a member is found
[2:06:28] guilty of an ethics violation, where do
[2:06:30] we appeal?
[2:06:31] >> There isn't a current appeal process
[2:06:33] through that.
[2:06:35] You know, you can always look and see
[2:06:37] if, depending on what it is.
[2:06:39] >> And the blackout period that pretty much
[2:06:40] all ethics committees have before an
[2:06:42] election is what?
[2:06:44] >> So
[2:06:46] Are you What are exactly are you getting
[2:06:48] at?
[2:06:48] >> So I I'm getting at this that this is
[2:06:50] just not thought out. Like there's no
[2:06:52] appeals process, there's no blackout
[2:06:54] period for an election. I mean, I can
[2:06:56] file these all day long and I will.
[2:06:58] >> So I would recommend taking a look Your
[2:07:00] questions are fair, but I would take a
[2:07:01] look at the actual code and go to the
[2:07:03] end where it does talk about the next
[2:07:06] steps.
[2:07:07] So there are processes there. I if there
[2:07:10] is a criminal complaint, of course
[2:07:11] that's going to go to the DA's office.
[2:07:13] >> Right.
[2:07:15] Okay.
[2:07:15] >> if there is an ethics violation
[2:07:17] and it's actually truthful, should it
[2:07:19] wait or is this a regulatory thing?
[2:07:27] >> Any other questions on the floor?
[2:07:32] All right, we're going to go ahead and
[2:07:32] take a roll call.
[2:07:35] Mary, could you please take a roll call?
[2:07:37] >> Andy Parrish.
[2:07:43] Too many mics on.
[2:07:44] >> No.
[2:07:45] >> Okay.
[2:07:46] Rykert Todd.
[2:07:47] >> Yes.
[2:07:48] >> Lori Sieverson.
[2:07:49] >> Yes.
[2:07:50] >> Andy Todd.
[2:07:51] >> Yes.
[2:07:52] >> Richard Anderson.
[2:07:53] >> Yes.
[2:07:54] >> Scott Leonard.
[2:07:55] >> Yes.
[2:07:56] >> Paul Sieverson.
[2:07:57] >> Yes.
[2:07:58] >> Kevin Whalen.
[2:07:58] >> Yes.
[2:07:59] >> John Austin.
[2:08:00] >> Yes.
[2:08:01] >> [clears throat]
[2:08:02] >> Don True.
[2:08:02] >> Yes.
[2:08:03] >> Robert Becker.
[2:08:04] >> Yes.
[2:08:04] >> Renee Lyon.
[2:08:05] >> Yes.
[2:08:06] >> John Skog.
[2:08:08] >> Yes.
[2:08:09] >> David Larson.
[2:08:12] >> Yes.
[2:08:13] >> Kristen Heusby.
[2:08:14] >> Yes.
[2:08:15] >> Ron Johnson.
[2:08:15] >> Yes.
[2:08:18] >> 15 to 1 passes.
[2:08:20] >> It passes.
[2:08:22] We're going to move on that we covered
[2:08:23] um B and C. We're going to move on to
[2:08:25] nine correspondence. Um there I believe
[2:08:28] we have some
[2:08:30] thank you letters from the Strum Public
[2:08:33] Library for the summer library program
[2:08:36] for kids.
[2:08:37] And they will be here to pass around if
[2:08:39] you want to take a look at them. All the
[2:08:41] kids have done them so they're kind of
[2:08:42] cute cuz I got to take a look at them.
[2:08:44] So
[2:08:45] There you go.
[2:08:49] Oh, you absolutely we can.
[2:08:51] Oh, those are fun.
[2:08:56] >> Did we support all the libraries?
[2:08:59] >> Yes, we Yep.
[2:09:01] At 100% yep.
[2:09:04] All right, with that said
[2:09:06] I'm going to adjourn this meeting at
[2:09:12] 7:41 p.m.